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Adsense Way Off Base Targeting

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SkyDiveDad

9:31 pm on Nov 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hello all, not trying to beat a dead cat on the issue, but WOW, I feel dirty! This must be how alcoholism starts!

I run a graphics tutorial based website. Everything was going great yesterday.

Now I've got ads for everything but on target! Like "Download Movies", "Tecfil Cenosperes", (here's a great one) "Optical Polymer".

I know some of us aren't very big fish in the sea. But shouldn't we count too? Please Google, stop with the scraps!

I'd rather be creating new content, not blocking ridiculous ads every hour.

I need some honest help and advice.

hunderdown

9:37 pm on Nov 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Don't bother filling up your block list. If there is a problem with targeting, you'll just get more off-topic ads.

Email AdSense support--though the problem may also go away on its own.

deepesh

6:41 am on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I also get ads about 'website stats' and 'hitcounter' on some pages which is nowhere related to the ads, I would suggest you to try section targetting.

SkyDiveDad

3:38 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thank you deepesh and hunderdown for your replies.

I agree with not filling up the block list. And I have contacted Adsense support concerning this issue. That's where the biggest discouragement is. They have yet to contact me.

I've always been a "lurker" on webmaster world, even though I've followed them for years. I'm not a newbie by any means of the term. I've been online since the boom in 95 and I've also been with Adsense for quite awhile. Never made much money with them, didn't try to.

Concerning tracking and stats, I've got the best of the best for tracking software (yes custom built) so I know everything about my site as far as what people are looking at, coming from, and how. I know which page really is the "home" page for my visitors. Not the one I originally built of course..LOL.. Even with Adsense tracking, I know if it's the top, middle, or bottom of the page.

There is no secret to making money on the internet. It's just plain work. Hard work. Yes, certain things help you such as a niche area. I found a saying recently that sums it all up but don't remember where I found it. Probably from this forum somewhere: "winners sacrifice short term pleasures for long term success".

My biggest complaint comes when you see a deliberate favortism doing certain times of the year and these search engines divert the most traffic to their "key players" for no other purpose than to protect their "investments". I may not like it, but I can understand that, it is their business.

There are so many sharks out there that think money will allow them to live forever. For a small person trying to come up on the internet, they seem to allow just enough crumbs to keep you interested, and about the time you think your going to get your chance to "make it big" they have the money, manpower, and time to cut you off at the pass.

Theres certainly no equality when it comes to the net.

I think the best solution to this, which has also been repeated on these forums more times than I can count, is not to rely on them as your only source. I went into this business as my business. I did it to "call the shots". If I have to keep worrying about them controlling how my business succeeds, then I guess I've failed at my own hands.

If my business isn't important enough for them to be play fair, I can accept that. But when they don't even take the time to reply to a legitimate concern in a timely manner, that's wrong! When it comes to customer support, they suck! Would you tolerate that kind of "abuse" from a local store?

Sorry for the long ramblings.. just getting it out my system.

Regardless of how the net treats you today, I wish you all a great week. Most importantly .. have fun!

danimal

4:48 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>Don't bother filling up your block list. If there is a problem with targeting, you'll just get more off-topic ads.<<<

guess what, some of us actually do care about the quality of the ads that appear on our websites... i am not going to allow adsense to drive the reputation of my website into the ground with links to totally irrelevant garbage websites.

skydivedad, i believe that some(all?) sectors of the computing industry are being overrun by adsense trash right now... i say that because most of my sites are in non-computing areas, and the trash hasn't shown up there yet.

i believe that google is currently testing publishers in certain sectors to see how much of this they can get away with... if nobody complains, trash advertising will take over, because google is making money off of it.

these trash ads are NOT "adsense way off base targeting"... it just started showing up within the last couple of weeks or so; google knows very well what they are doing to us.

yesterday i got a response from adsense support on this issue, to the tune of they didn't see a problem... so i take screen shots every time i see a garbage ad on my computing site, and i send it in to adsense support... you should be doing the same thing... swamp 'em with it, ask 'em why they are sending you this trash.

the other thing to watch out for is trash ads sneaking past the filter every now and then... adsense support denied that it was happening, but they did ask for screen shots of it, so i have been sending that in as well... it's all part of this pattern.

btw, you can easily take sites off of the filter list if you want... but you must put 'em in there now, so that google does not make any money off of 'em.

hunderdown

4:58 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



danimal, I care about the quality of the ads on my site too. Please don't make such patronizing assumptions about people with whom you happen to disagree!

In fact, I watch the ads on my site, and I do block MFA-type sites, as well as certain others. I also have seen off-target ads on my site, and have seen them disappear pretty quickly. My suggestion that he NOT bother to block those ads was made only because in my experience that's not a good use of one's time, if they are going to disappear.

If the problem you have had some experience with is that same problem he is having, then your approach sounds better.

danimal

5:59 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



patronizing? quite the opposite... perhaps i mis-categorized you as an mfa site owner, because of the nature of your post.

you'll understand our frustration as soon as it hits your sector... this is waaay beyond the occasional off-topic ad... i've been with adsense for most of this year, and i've never seen anything like this before.

hunderdown

6:45 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



I honestly don't see what there is in my earlier post that would make you think I'm an MFA owner.

This does sound like a big problem--but this is the only thread I've seen discussing it. Or did I miss something?

danimal

10:56 pm on Nov 29, 2005 (gmt 0)



"Don't bother filling up your block list" is exactly what an mfa/links site owner would say... they are making money off of their fake adwords spam, so of course they don't want their url's blocked.

i do agree with you, to the extent that it's google's job to clean up this adsense trash, we should not have to do it with the block list... and why would google want to clean up something that they are making money off of? because it hurts the integrity of the entire adsense program.

danimal

12:28 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



here is a great example of the adsense trash that i'm talking about:

"FREE EBAY SUCCESS KIT"
how i make $470,000/yr on ebay get your free kit - today only!

that ad just now showed up on my computer-related website, which never mentions the word "ebay" anywhere on it... the ad is not relevant to any keyword or concept on the site.

i can't understand why only a couple of us are getting these garbage ads.

AdSenseAdvisor

6:14 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



SkyDiveDad -

If the ads your seeing are way off-base, there may be a bigger troubleshooting issue.

I recommend emailing adsense-support@google.com with an example URL of where the irrelevant ads are appearing. You can also sticky mail me the URL and I'll be happy to take a look.

ASA