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Who wants to be the first turkey? :)
It's good that it's free but is this giving Google a bit too much of information? Is the giveaway purely out of the goodness of their heart... or do they have something very valuable to gain in return?
Does having Adsense on the site (with smartpricing) impact on your decision?
...and just maybe all the others who are aiding and abetting them
Sorry, but I think you got this wrong. Like I said, I am entitled to be able to track visitors on MY web page. You are not entitled to hide yourself and disallow me from doing so.
Not tracking me, nope, not gonna happen. Java script disabled no Google tracking. Third party cookies disabled most other third party tracking disabled.
If you want to see where I go on your site you will have to read your log files.
All I am saying is at least go in with your eyes open to the possibilities, not closed and blindly grabbing for the 'free stuff'.
Okay go ahead and blast me.
Better yet, read this:
[mccordweb.com...]
If this URL gets deleted you will find it on Google news ww thread.
what happens if google discovers that the average visitor to your pages only stay for 25 seconds, and then they use this data to integrate into their search algorithm. so, instead of being first for a particular search term you drop down to second, because your competitors pages are more sticky.
Then we'll see:
1. "Sticky exchanges" where someone will visit your site and hang around for an hour or so in return for you doing the same
2. Software to make it appear someone is staying on your site for long periods of time
3. Whatever other "Buy this product and rocket to the top in search engine rankings" schemes people can develop
farmboy
All I am saying is at least go in with your eyes open to the possibilities, not closed and blindly grabbing for the 'free stuff'.
Confucius say: When you share bed with elephant always keep one eye open in case he roll over.
Free is not necessarily bad but we seem to have come to an age when people see "free" and assume it is.
You can get the same problem with some log file analyses. It's because the 'stats run' is not real time, and was run part way through the day. If that's the case, your stats for that day will change (upwards) in the next update.
Once a day? or more often.
Thank you.
Not tracking me, nope, not gonna happen. Java script disabled no Google tracking. Third party cookies disabled most other third party tracking disabled.If you want to see where I go on your site you will have to read your log files.
We will see what happens when the day comes when you can't use any websites because of such things.. Then what will you do?
Again you don't have the right to hide your behavior on my site. Obviously it is not an issue now because not enough people do what you do. If they did, though, it would become a problem for you. Because sites would stop allowing access to those who don't participate.
The real point is that, as Conard admits, most of the same user information is clearly available in any site's log files anyway. Even if you go to the trouble of using an anonymizer service, the site owner can still see you enter the site and follow you around from page to page.
Again you don't have the right to hide your behavior on my site. Obviously it is not an issue now because not enough people do what you do. If they did, though, it would become a problem for you. Because sites would stop allowing access to those who don't participate.
I do have the right to block Java script, Flash, Active X, cookies and any number of other things I don't want to be exposed to while surfing the web.
If your site doesn't work because of this there are 100 competitors sites that will and they are a couple of clicks away.
Privacy and security on the Internet and how I handle it are up to me and not a web site designer.
Plain old log files and a good program to read them have been around since day one and all of the grown up webmasters use them everyday.
Is it in that pile of stats somewhere? Ic an't see it. I never realised how much could be gathered. Its certinaly deeper than Awstats.
I do have the right to block Java script, Flash, Active X, cookies and any number of other things I don't want to be exposed to while surfing the web.
If your site doesn't work because of this there are 100 competitors sites that will and they are a couple of clicks away.
Privacy and security on the Internet and how I handle it are up to me and not a web site designer.
Plain old log files and a good program to read them have been around since day one and all of the grown up webmasters use them everyday.
It goes beyond weblogs though.. It goes to advertising as well. Many advertising programs rely on javascript to deliver ads. Perhaps you feel like you are entitled to a free lunch and an anonymous ride, but you are real not. You enjoy it now, because people can afford to let you do it. If things change, and they potentially will down the road, then you will see your expectations not to match up with reality.
Enjoy it now, but don't think you are entitled nor owed those things, because you are not.
However, I added the codes but when I click to confirm, google says it cannot locate the script on my homepage. Anyone else seeing this?
However, I added the codes but when I click to confirm, google says it cannot locate the script on my homepage. Anyone else seeing this?
I have this message as well but was told that the script on my site was verified or something like that 24 hours later.
However, I added the codes but when I click to confirm, google says it cannot locate the script on my homepage. Anyone else seeing this?
I had the same problem. After several tries I gave up and removed the script.
/edit/ wrong quote
"Analytics has been successfully installed and data is being gathered now. Your first reports will be ready within twelve hours."
But it is over 24 hours now and the report still didn't show up.
So I guess what I'm saying is... (if you haven't already) actually follow the link to view reports and you might be surprised.
" Waiting for Data
Analytics has been successfully installed and data is being gathered now. Your first reports will be ready within twelve hours."
There must be teething problems.
