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I have almost convinced a client to change/upgrade their website and start using CSS. That's a good start and they understand the benefits as well. OK, now the tricky part, they want to see some good examples on websites using CSS before they change.
I know about the zengarden and CSS/Edge and where to find them, but I need something more official-looking to prove to this client that the css race is on, and not an experimental zone or playground for web-techies.
Please, give me some examples
Thanks in advance
/Anders
If anyone can add to that with Major sites, feel free though it was covered pretty well in that thread. Be aware that I have the <snip>ers out though ;)
Only major companies/sites please guys.
Thanks
Nick
That link was really good and more or less what I hoped to get. A really good startpoint as well. But has there been no development in this area the last halfyear?
/Anders
Jennifer
Another issue is the kind of content management that large enterprises almost always require. That can also wreak havoc with a "pure" css layout.
A friend of mine works as a project manager for a mid-size company. At her urging, that company has decided to dump their CMS and hire a full time, very savvy, page builder instead.
It's good not to be TOO purist. The current Wired News [wired.com] home page uses one small table for the Market Watch section - and yes, you could easily call that section true tabular data. But you can just as easily say it's a layout issue. The point is, they went with the table in this one small spot rather than do code-yoga.
But if the question is about tables vs. divs again, it's extremely rare to find a major site that doesn't have tables.
Look at the homepages for IBM, Microsoft, and Cisco. They all have stylesheets, and they all have tables.
Interestingly, the Microsoft homepage is using the <font> tag, which is considered bad form these days.
What about ESPN? Underneath that ton of javascripts, I think I see some css in there.
Gawd! I took a peek at their style sheet. The thing has more code than most of my web pages. Who writes this stuff?
25 classes for this def - {font-family:verdana, arial, sans-serif}
font-family defined 53 times, and every one is a sans-serif (though some define only the font, i.e. 'arial').
Looks like it was put together by a committee :)
WBF
Interestingly, the Microsoft homepage is using the <font> tag, which is considered bad form these days.
Probably developed their site in IE and couldn't get it to render right with CSS ;)
Nah, they probably developed it with Front Page :o
WBF
rather than do code-yoga
Tedster, that was great...
Just for starters. AdaptivePath is my favorite, although the least 'famous' of the batch. It was designed by the guy at StopDesign.com who regularly posts about how he developed his sites on his weblog there. In addition, Apple has just contracted the StopDesign guy and Jeffrey Zeldman to do 'some work'.. so keep an eye on Apple.com :-) SimpleBits.com is a similar weblog by an XHTML/CSS designer.
Zeldman gave a keynote speech/slideshow on the topic [happycog.com] of XHTML/CSS (including its use in major sites), and put a copy of it online. Start at frame 23 [happycog.com] if you just want to see the screenshots and sites. I got most of my recommendations above from there.
