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I Don't Trust Google Traffic

No more content advetising for me

     
2:51 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I pretty much gave up google and paused my account for the past few months in favor of MSN.

Well, I resumed promoting a merchant that has been making me tons of $$$$$ on MSN. MY ECPC was about $3.50 with MSN.

I figured I could get much more traffic from google, which was true, HOWEVER...

When I flipped the google switch, I got over 300 clicks in about 6 hours...BUT ZERO CONVERSIONS!

MSN gives me only a handful of clicks a day...But they convert very well...

Google gives me 300 clicks in 6 hours and NOTHING!

I could write google and complain, but their approach to click fraud will only p*ss me off...I will just keep the account shutdown and keep my advertising soley with MSN...

Good job google!

5:17 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I love Google traffic .. It converts very well for me.. I am one satisfied customer...till now..
5:39 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MSN has no syndication or content network, so - yes, the traffic is more "pure", predictable, and higher converting. But, it is also limited...

So, if you're looking to grow - Google is where you've got to play. Have you tried running only search? Comparing search to content (on any engine) is comparing fruits of differing varieties...

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i left some things out...

Content advertising USED to convert for me with certain keywords -- now they don't.

A year ago, the same campaign I complained up would make me a few thousand dollars a month -- Now it makes virtually zero...And I have changed very little.

You could say the market is dead, but again, on MSN, even though it is pure search my conversions are very high.

Google to grow? Funny you say that...I started with Google, was spending around 6k a month making an ok profit.

The same 6k that I put into MSN has given me an ROI 10x better than google's best days. And I am still warming up with MSN -- Kinda hard when it is buggy, but when you can get stuff running, you get quality traffic.

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Content advertising USED to convert for me with certain keywords -- now they don't.

Not since Adsense got flooded with MFA sites, no doubt.

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Google to grow? Funny you say that...

I was referring to your desire for growth. Making money on a "handful of clicks a day" will only satisfy for so long...

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To my opinion it is not the MFA sites, who give you the bad clicks, but DomainPark.
Waiting for the day we can Opt-out on Domainpark or at least select the sites we want to be seen on.
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or at least select the sites we want to be seen on.

It's called site-targetting.

11:44 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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the guys from the adsense forum are guilty of content advertising not working ;)
i guess if google concentrated on kicking all adsense #*$! creators they would kill two birds with one stone, ie:
- improve quality of their advertising network, so that their advertisers would use content more eagerly
- as low-quality adsense sites would not make money, there would be less adsense spam in the SERPs.

of course, that would work if google hit adsense bad boys really strongly.

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One of my biggest rules rules avoid content site advertising.
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'It's called site-targetting.'
Not sure if i missed something, but i do like to have my adwords campaigns on park pages of Godaddy :) the rest can be stolen....
But cant figured out how this can be done.
'Amen'
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Go read the AdSense forums. You'll never want to do content advertising again. I recommend against it for almost everyone. It tends to be a financial sink hole.

To much MFA, simply put.

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If everyone though Content ads were bad..there would be no 'adsense for publishers. '

Not everyone thinks content advertising is bad.

I like it.

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Hi,

With care the Content Network works fine for me, but to make it work you need to be prepared to make separate bids AND lots of negative keywords.

Rgds

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To my opinion it is not the MFA sites, who give you the bad clicks, but DomainPark.

Your opinion is wrong! DomainPark is converting very well for us and other people I know, but not the rest of content advertising which is dominated by MFA sites. Would be good if we have things separated. Of course, would be good if we have DomainPark networks separated as well, because there are a couple of real fraudsters there!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't domainpark part of the search network anyway so you can't turn it off?