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Is UK Yahoo showing Ink?

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6:55 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For the last couple hours, I've been seeing
Inktomi title/description for my site.

8:59 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm still seeing Google here.
9:14 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Seeing Google results (does yahoo have a beta page like msn?)
9:19 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing non-Google too - since my pages don't figure at all on Inktomi I am very worried
9:20 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Only Google here.
9:30 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)



Well - try UK searches, everyone. The directory title and description isn't there - just the standard SE listing using title and meta description (for me). Not sure it is INK though - but it is different.

Default search (worldwide) still the same as before (Google) with Yahoo title/desc for sites in the directory.

9:34 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Different index from Positiontech/MSN but definite Inktomi. I can tell easily because I have gone from #1 to non-existent on all my phrases
9:34 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same here - something's afoot Watson, but I'm not sure if it's Ink...

R.

9:37 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am getting Google results still :¦
9:43 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Uk searches are bringing up something different, for sure. Not Google at all... Dang... :(
9:48 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can see that the descriptions are not taken from the Yahoo directory in a UK search, but I am definetly getting Google and the search technology provided by Google small print is still at the bottom of the serps page.
9:57 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google small print is still at the bottom of the serps page.

Yes, I'm aware of that. What lead me to assume the results were Ink is that Google has my new description, and Ink is still using the one from last week - which is appearing at Yahoo UK; a one word difference, but still a difference.

Of course, maybe the Google results Yahoo UK is using are just old?

10:01 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The small print at the page bottom would be the last thing to be changed (especially if its just testing things out).

Yahoo's uk search is only showing all ".co.uk" domains - has this always been the case?

10:04 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Maybe it is Google - the snippets are the same

But it is a very different index from that showing on Google - mainly because all except one of my pages has been obliterated!

10:11 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Slurp has been busy recently.
There's always a the possibility it is an entirely different and new db for Y.
11:04 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see the usual Google feed, and recently updated too
11:29 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like Ink to me - very slightly different description and positions to pure Ink search - but almost spot on.
11:55 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually, those are the Fast UK search results I believe.

Compare them to the results on www.eibon.co.uk which uses a UK filtered Fast feed, and there is a definite correlation. Not exactly the same order, but the same titles and descriptions appearing.

[edited by: Bobby_Davro at 11:59 am (utc) on Aug. 5, 2003]

11:58 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok guys. We've gone a long way to narrowing this down.

The results are either:

Fast UK
Ink
Google
Some "crazy" Google
Something Completely New
Something Else

We've done well. ;)

1:28 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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LOL :)

Knowing Yahoo its probably a combination of all of them!

1:38 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Getting some changes in listings. Dosn't look like Fast to me more like a updated Google.

Steve

1:41 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think its just Google.co.uk uk search with only the ".co.uk" extensions showing.

Checked a phrase in inktomi, alltheweb and google.co.uk uk search - and it matches google.co.uk exactly (once you subtract any non .co.uk extension from the google results).

[edited by: TravelSite at 1:42 pm (utc) on Aug. 5, 2003]

1:41 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like updated Google to me now
1:45 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)



Try doing the same search on AOL UK selecting UK only and Yahoo UK selecting UK only. The order is slightly different, but the listings layout (snippets) appear pretty identical to me!

I am pretty sure it is still Google being pulled from different data centres - and Yahoo are getting prepared to plug in something new :)

This is just the start!

2:43 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does not look like google ink or atw to me.

The title and descriptions comes from the yahoo directory where listed. The mix however I think is something NEW.

2:58 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok then ... I'll prove that its google!

Type the following into both Google Uk-Search and Yahoo Uk search:

blue-widgets

You will notice that results (including ranking order) are identical. The only difference is that Yahoo removes any ".net", ".com", ".org" extensions - it only likes the .co.uk extensions :)

Is everyone seeing this (or are folk seeing different results?)

I also like the second site that comes up in the results :)

4:01 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i will never understand why some search engines are so dumb as to use a crude domain extension to EXCLUDE a site. i have a .com that is a uk only site. this is of course excluded from yahoo.co.uk results for uk websites. uk google isn't so dumb.

i presume then that yahoo get the feed from google and then exclude any non .co.uk results.

4:56 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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incywincy,

A more detailed discussion on placement in UK Engines is here.

[webmasterworld.com...]

But basically you are correct in saying that some engines geo-filter on .uk domain and some by geo-locating the server (if a little erratically on occasion - there are a number of disucssions on the success/otherwise of Google's UK Geo-Filtering both for SERPs and for Adwords.)

10:33 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Results for my (US) site are back to Yahoo directory.

7:39 am on Aug 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Also, twice now, flashed a new version of the Y! logo - this one with SBC sitting on top the upper left-hand corner. The is on Y! Home, prior to SERP. Looks to me like their developers are geeting things ready.
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