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Lycos advertising offer

Once again I ask for your assistance on my website promotion

         

chrisholgate

5:44 pm on Apr 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was contacted today by a company offering to do the following and I have come to respect the advice of you guys as so far you have been dead right about most subjects I've posted.

The company are going to call me back tomorrow and are offering to give me a banner in Lycos that appears at the top of all search results matching my keyword. The example he gave me is if you type 'computer' into www.lycos.co.uk then you'll see that in the top right a small banner appears embedded using Flash. If you then click on one of their competitors and ignore the banner then you'll see that their banner remains at the top of the page so you can't really get away from the company are advertising.

For the year I would be looking at £500 + VAT to select one keyword - if you were to select car for example then results for car hire, car buying, car selling etc etc would all display your banner unless someone had specifically bought a two word phrase. So, if a company then bought 'car buying' then your banner would still be displayed for those searching for 'car selling', 'car hire' etc but not car buying.

Does this make sense? It sounds like a good deal but I'm just a bit cautious that I was called as it has been my experience that any advertising ideas that result from cold calling are not worth doing!

Once again, many thanks for your help.

Chris Holgate

sem4u

6:33 pm on Apr 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had a call about this before and one the other week. There are some threads on here about them somewhere.

The thing to remember is that Lycos doesn't account for much traffic in today's search engine world.

You need to weigh up if you would receive enough targeted clicks to make your investment worthwhile.

They also could not quote me much in the way of search statistics.

Then they tried to sell me something else where I can get click throughs via Google & MSN where traffic is redirected to your site, and is not channeled via sponsored listings. This sounds a bit fishy to me.

Ross

7:40 pm on Apr 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Chris,

Don't do it!

Here's a thread talking about Lycos advertising [webmasterworld.com ]. It's generally agreed that Lycos simply doesn't send the traffic any more.

I suspect that the company that phoned you might have been Touch PLC or one of it's relatives. Again there are a few threads around talking about this company (all bad).

Bobby_Davro

12:12 am on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Was it the "TPC Group" offering to sell you this?

Lycos really doesn't get a great deal of traffic now. You will also find that you probably won't be able to purchase any of the good single keywords that might actually draw some traffic. As well as that, you will be competing against the new premium links and the Kiti (sp?) boxes that they are pushing heavily on the search results.

Your £500 could go a lot further, advertising on Overture and Espotting. Supposing you paid 20p per click, you would get 2500 qualified visitors. Can you say the same for your banner?

I tend to assume that if a company is selling advertising on a temporal basis, like Lycos, then it is because the traffic simply isn't there to justify CPC or CPM advertising.

chrisholgate

12:33 am on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll find out tomorrow who it was, can't remember the company name. For my keyword they quoted 2,500 impressions again, plus all the spin offs that would be created by multiple search keywords entered. Thanks for your ongoing help.

chrisholgate

8:42 am on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Bobby,
Yes it was TPC Group. I'm assuming that they've contacted you in the past? Does anyone have any experience dealing with this company?
Many thanks

makemetop

8:51 am on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)



>Does anyone have any experience dealing with this company?

Yes, The Purple Circle is pretty well-known around here - and not for anything particularly good! Read the linked threads further up.

Save your money to spend on something that will actually give you a return.

The "impressions" they quoted came from where? I bet they marry up with the Overture figures for last month! They almost certainly aren't from Lycos!

Bobby_Davro

9:19 am on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, they have phoned me before. And the numbers they quote are nothing to do with Lycos - they are simply looking at the Overture search suggestion tool. I should have reported them to Trading Standards, but couldn't be bothered.

Apparently Lycos won't give them access to any actual traffic information.

sammyp

10:03 pm on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I get called by touch about 6 or 7 times week. Always selling Lycos banners, kitilinks etc. Sometimes I get called by two diffenet telesales "experts" selling the same thing the same day. It does concern me that a week after calling me with a hot keyphrase, they then call me again with the same hot keyphrase that has just become available! Having said that, the Roi on a lycos banner we bought 12 months ago has been OK. Im on the fence to be honest, but it really boils down to how desperate you are. If youre not deperate, give it a miss.

chrisholgate

1:07 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've decided to give it a go becauase as far as I'm concerned, nothing ventured nothing gained. Thanks for all your help and will let you know how this turns out for me.

Kind Regards

Chris

bada_bing

3:57 pm on May 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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don't do it... i know what you mean by nothing ventured nothing gained...

think how much traffic overture, espotting, adwords you could get for your money...

ncsuk

4:11 pm on May 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had a client ask me about this earlier and she took teh sensible option and steered well clear.

Smiley

9:56 pm on May 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't do it - as everyone has said there are better ways, are you listed in Yahoo or Looksmart? Read the posts here at WW carefully before parting with cash.

Smiley

elgumbo

5:50 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I bought a banner on Lycos last year for a competitive keyword. I got about 20 clicks in that time.

If you do decide to take it out [please don't] make sure you keep checking your keyword. Mine stopped showing on at least 3 occassions (that I know of) and I had to phone them up to get it reinstated.

They also promised me that it would show up for any search that contained my keyword - it did for about a month and then stopped.

Total waste of money, nobody uses Lycos any more.

The next thing they'll phone you with is a pointless link on MSN.

But that's another thread ....

DaveN

8:47 pm on May 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I asked about a keyword "google" which they then sold to halifax two weeks later they are scum.

DaveN

dougs

1:49 pm on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just been pitched by [elliv8.com...] to do this deal for lycos.ie.

£500 for a listing for 2 words

£2000 for a single word.

Doug

EliteWeb

2:00 pm on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have some keywords in lycos, one and two word ones for their PPC. I signed up 4-5 months ago with a 50.00 deposit and im still not out. Most of these co's that sell advertisement sell it for the month, you may get that many impressions so they say, but when you ask why you only got 2 clicks they will say its due to your artwork or something like that. Stick with PPC on lycos, cheaper, and your in control.