I am pretty new to this SEO game and I am having a few problems. I am having quite good success with pay for play programs such as Ink and have two good looksmart listings for my site and a good yahoo listing. I was lucky enough to get fairly good descriptions as well. My problem is that engines such as lycos, atlavista and google just dont seem to want to know when I try and submit. When I did submit to av they sent a spider straight away but have not been back since and the rest just seem to ignore my request. I seem to picking up from these forums that if you have good directory listings that your site may be picked automatically. Is there any truth in this and if so what engines use this method? Is there any other tips or postings of UK based engines that any kind person could point me to?
Any help would be great.
>great site this seems to be
- understatement - it *is* ;)
Over what time period have you been trying to submit to those three? You do need patience I'm afraid. If you click on 'site search' at the top, I'm sure you will find many specific answers to your queries, there is talk about AV uk in the Alta Vista forum, which would then be brought up.
It is true that some of the search engines will pick your site up from the directories - especially in the case of Google.
have you submitted to ODP, that will pretty much solve your problems. If you have already, patience!
I suppose maybe I am expecting things to happen a bit too quick. I started submitting my site about two months ago and I did not expect to get listed that quickly, I just imagined they might at least have visited to verify the url as in the case of AV (scooter was there instantly).
I have submitted to ODP but nothing has happened as yet. I have checked and the last update for the particular section that I think I submitted to and it was updated yesterday but I am not in. I cant be 100% percent sure if it was the correct category but I am 99% sure. I know it was rather foolish of me not to keep some sort of record but as I say I am new to all this and you learn from your mistakes.
I would imagine that it might be best to patient as you's suggested and see what happens. Would it be advisable to try the odp again if I am not listed say by the end of the month.
Again thanks for your help
Leave it at least 3 weeks from the last time, then try again. Be as certain as you can that you are in the right category. Some categories have a terrific backlog, others are reasonably quick.
Patience is a virtue with the ODP. I would echo what oldtimer has said, sometimes sites will be accepted in hours, other times it will take weeks.
When you submit to a category, see if it has an editor listed, if not step back up the levels until you find an editor. The further back you have to go the longer it usually takes to be listed.
Been a couple of weeks now and still nothing, I know looksmart state it can take four weeks or more but I thought it was usually more like 2 weeks in pratice.
Any thoughts?
Quite a few of us are watching to see what happens with MSN updates from L$ listings across here [webmasterworld.com].
The apparent lag can be very frustrating, just hang in there because it'll come.
After submission it took the following for my listing to appear:
Looksmart: 2 weeks
MSN: 4 weeks
Excite: about 10 weeks
I must be in a very unpopular LookSmart category. I see very little traffic from the listing despite being in the first spot when presented on MSN.
On the plus side, this LookSmart listing appears to be beneficial in Google.
My b2b site with few incoming links and a LookSmart listing has a higher page rank than my virtually identical (in presentation and structure) b2c site with many incoming links and no LookSmart Listing.
Nice review, swift entry into the index. But certain resellers of Looksmart - AV, Excite etc are not holding up to their end of the bargin.
My site appears in their directory results section, but not in the spidered section. In the spidered section its Goto UK top few and then either Ink or the SE's own results. The update speed for these sites is dreadful - I've been waiting 4 months for AV. I feel that Looksmart for which they get commission has been totally miss-sold by these SE's -- the wording implies that its the defacto way to get into the results - but in fact the best position goes to Goto as the spidered section provides the default results.
The only UK site which has held up to its side of the deal has been MSN.co.uk where the results from the directory are given prominence. Fortunately it is the most popular page in the UK. First time I've ever sung the praises of M$ ;) -- 2nd biggest refferrer atm.
Gethan
