google.co.uk are they done

[DaveN]

with all the GeoTargetting been done by the 3 uk players Yahoo, Msn and Google ... is Google starting to lose it's foot holding in the UK ,

lets face facts Google is still the hardest SE to rank for, but the traffic from Yahoo and MSN combined out strips Google in many areas...

So is google done, have they made it too hard to get good rankings because some areas I monitor the results look complete crap..

what's your thoughts?

DaveN

[ukgimp]

>>some areas I monitor the results look complete crap..

Stop putting up sites then Dave :-)

In response to google UK being done there are definitely changes in the wind. Now that MSN are pushing their product things could shift more. Competition and variation are good :-)

[DaveN]

hahaha ..

but this is a shift in the masses not the webmasters, but home users and small businesses..

DaveN

[engine]

On balance, the results are good, however, I can see the problem in some sectors which appear "spammed out."

I'd like to see this run for a little longer before I run a full review.

[lloyd]

When DaveN makes a comment like that is it time to sit up and take note. Do you know something the rest of us don't.

Google will lose a percentage of the share. That is evolution. It is by how much. Is MSN new search any good. I'm not sure. It looks and feels like Google. MSN search is designed along the samelines. It is going to come down to individual taste in terms of what you like looking at on the screen.

I just hope something fresh will come along. Teoma didn't make it. What else is out there?

It is getting boring with just three players and 3 ppc campaigns.

[IanTurner]

Don't write Teoma off just yet, Ask Jeeves is still out there fighting for market share and if anything have increased over the last year rather than declined.

[DaveN]

Whoever gave them guidance on spam got it WRONG imo

DaveN

[exmoorbeast]

Google.co.uk still looks okay to me - I mean it's still easy to get listed it. Sure they might whack the spammers now and again, but wouldn't you if you were Google. My vote is for Google dominating the UK for at least the rest of this year.

MSN's listings are wosre with tons of spam in. We ranked highly - top 10 for a seriously competitive term (loans) on a page that was thrown up in minutes and had little to do with Loans.

Yahoo is Yahoo.

[DaveN]

Googles collateral damage policies when hitting spammers is their problem! and will be there downfall

DaveN

[lloyd]

Ian

Do you really think that Ask Jeeves is picking up their marketing share.

Just a meta search engine relying on Google results more and more and Teoma results less and less.

[IanTurner]

AJ is Teoma results with Google adwords as its PPC provider.

I've seen solid growth in AJ referrals (free Teoma listings) over the past year.

[brixton]

as i sayed in the other thread about the new update we have a first? result of google's downgrade.At one college they change their default SE to MSN.co.uk.I wonder how many they will follow.

[exmoorbeast]

Dave N - the spammers got greedy in 2003, and that's why google got good at beating them.

[DaveN]

exmoor beast ... i don't think that google are good at just catching spam sites they throw the net to wide, so a lot on innocent sites get caught as well... i can understand the last actions that google took to combat the the spammers in the .com but their actions wiped out a lot of UK based businesses in the process, the sad think is these where mainly mom and pop sites..

DaveN