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melbourne73

8:29 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hi everyone,

new member here .... just been looking through this forum and was after the top SE's in ireland .... couldnt see any info .... anyone able to point me in the right direction?

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:52 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ask Bobby Davro - he's the man!

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10:17 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi melbourne73, welcome to WebmasterWorld.

Take a look though these threads which might be of use.

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jmccormac

11:08 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The main search engine in Ireland is probably Google. MSN/Yahoo would probably be the alternatives. The only active Irish search engine is WhoisIreland [1] as it is the only one that spiders. A US based Irish search engine also seems to spider (IndexIreland [1]) but I have not seen it spidering recently (as in the last 10 months or so) and it seems to be relying on user submissions.

A few active Irish directory sites exist. However all these Irish sites combined would not equal the traffic that Google gets. Google also supplies results feeds to two of the main Irish ISPs (Eircom and Esat/IOL) though the traffic from Eircom is by far the more significant. Many of the Irish "search engines" tend to have limited operational lifetimes due to having no clear acquisition plan for new websites other than user submissions (not the most efficient way) and no clear business plan. Indeed it would be safe to say that many of the Irish directories are operated as sidelines rather than as real standalone businesses.

Regards...jmcc
[1] Both are .com but only WhoisIreland is .ie

melbourne73

2:36 pm on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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thanks guys.

what is confusing me however is i've recently seen a top 17 (dated may 2004) list of the most popular websites in Ireland (lists all sites not just s/e's) and it states Yahoo! as the most popular, and google is nowhere to be seen.

ive also looked at keywords on google.ie and on their adwords programs it states that i would recieve 1.1 clicks per day (this was with a €20 max bid!) - what is strange is the keyword i entered is pretty "popular". so to be honest this is confusing the hell outta me.

should i take the google adwords estimated clicks & the recent report ive seen which had yahoo! as the leading site in ireland with a pince of salt?

jmccormac

8:01 pm on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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what is confusing me however is i've recently seen a top 17 (dated may 2004) list of the most popular websites in Ireland (lists all sites not just s/e's) and it states Yahoo! as the most popular, and google is nowhere to be seen.
It is probably one of those dubious Neilsen lists where they monitor a number of household computers and see what sites they use most. The methodology for this is rubbish and the sample size is probably not representative of the market. In reality, people navigate by search engines once they go outside thier small (local) number of frequently used websites. This would indicate that Google, MSN and Yahoo would be up at the the top. The e-mail from Yahoo/Hotmail (MSN) would probably account for the high showing of these sites.

The main Irish sites are probably the news sites, The Irish Times Ireland portal, the RTE News site and the jobs sites, followed closely by the property rental portal sites. The community websites would probably be up there as well though these impressions would be from a repeating audience (as would the news portal audiences) rather than "drive-by users".

The big problem with some of these "lists of top sites" is that they are not based on reliable data or proper webserver logs. Search engine spiders, scrapers etc will be included as if they were real users.

Regards...jmcc

melbourne73

7:56 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess that helps explain it, as like you say the majority of the top 17 sites where news sites and the such, however interestingly enough Yahoo! was there (true that may have been due to email) there was also a couple of Irish search engines - but again your explanation does explain this ....

Thanks very much for the info, much appreciated.