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• when i use IE 5.2, i must be connected to the internet to access the server in my mac. if i’m connected, there is no problem and i can make the form work, but i can’t be connected every moment i want to add a record. i’m not able to ‘connect’ to localhost if i’m not connected to the internet, instead i see an error message. i’ve seen in the preferences, but i haven’t found anything. is there a way to make it work?
• using opera version 5 i am able to connect to my server and display the form, the form here accepts accented characters. but strangely, i can not see the submit button anywhere, i checked my code and i think is ok; it’s like this <input type="submit" value="Añadir"> but all i can see in opera is a strange line below the form, i see the source of the form and i can see that the submit button is there, but in the page there’s nothing! someone else with this problem?
• finally in chimera navigator 0.4 the form works smoothly, but the problem here is that i can’t put accented characters! if i try to type it, the accent is not placed. if i copy & paste, instead of accents, will only show something like this ‘tZ5’ or stuff like that. i’ve also watched the preferences, but nothing about the character set. in dreamweaver in the page properties, you can change the document encoding for the character set, the default value is latin (which is the needed one for the accented characters), the information is in the tag <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">, so, i copied that tag and put it right after the title tag. but anyway, navigator wouldn’t show the accents in the field forms. is there a way i can make the form accept accented characters?
certainly, this has been asked before: which is the best browser for the mac? can someone pinpoint me the thread?
finally: does someone know which should be the best browser for this i’m trying to do?
before downloading another browser i would like to have some feedback. thanks in advance for your replies :)
Opera is now at v6
Chimera is now at v0.6
IE has upgraded 5.2 at least twice so that it's now at 5.2.2
Now, ***EVERY*** browser available for the Mac has bugs - it's just a question of how many. In my experience Chimera & Mozilla have the fewest problems rendering standards compliant html with IE comming in second.
as to the button not displaying this!might! have something to do with the ñ in the value : its *always* advisible to use &<name>; or &<number>; when using letters oustside the english alphabet.
I personally am using bleeding edge Mozilla Mach-O 1.3b trunk builds on a PowerBook G4 800MHz running MacOS X 10.2.3 Jaguar. I upgrade Mozilla whenever a new (daily) release is posted, but for something *really* stable and 99% working go for either 1.0.1 or 1.2.1. Additionally, with Mozilla I always install the following add-ons from mozdev: MultiZilla & GoogleBox ; BannerBlind ; AdBlock ; Leech 1.1.0. Go to [MozillaZine.org...] for links to all of the above (except Opera) :-)
yours in happy hacking
Bjarne - København ; Danmark ; Europa
is that also your opinion?
1- it is more likely a configuration problem, not a browser bug. However I cannot do much to help you on that one with this info. :(
2- It is probably an HTML validation issue, because when a simple code as a form is properly written, it shows up perfectly fine in every browser. Some browsers will be a lot less forgiving with incomplete or missing tags while others won't.
However, I'm with BjarneDM about using english (or just non-special characters) to name HTML fields and buttons (like "agregar" instead of "añadir").
3- It is probably a character coding issue, try using the following meta-tag in your form page:
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">My list of known OS X browsers (in favorite order):
- OmniWeb
- Mozilla
- Chimera
- Opera
- iCab
- IE
Hope this helps, good luck! :)
transistor:
I'm sorry, but I have a *very* low opinion on OmniWeb. I can give you an URL that's fully standards compliant but fails miserably in OmniWeb. OmniWeb has two things against it: CSS is absolutely buggy; they don't support ECMA-script (JavaScript) fully
Mozilla - preferably with the add-ons I recommended - in my opinion just kills the opposition; and that on *any* platform :-). Furthermore, when you sit down with a stable version of Mozilla you can be 99% sure it behaves *exactly* the same everywhere as opposed to IE and Opera that are at different version numbers depending on your OS.
As to the use of non-english characters this is as *serious* problem for non-english speaking people when designing web-sites. I agree with transistor:
1) *never*ever* user anything but the english character set when naming variables in JavaScript or giving Id's and names to html-entities
2) *always* entity-encode your non-english characters as described *anywhere*
3) do use a html-checker - personally I'm using BBEdit which comes with built-in checking of your html-code, and w3 has two great web-tool for checking both html in any version as well as CSS. Checking JavaScript is more problematic, but Mozilla has some built-in tools for that
yours in happy hacking
Bjarne - København ; Danmark ; Europa
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