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limbo

12:40 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi all

I have undertaken a number of private webdesign projects on top of the work I do daily and feel that it is only fair that I start to charge as my portfolio has enough examples done for free. (perks were taken graciously :) )

I have recently taken on a new project - a website to advertise 4 holiday villas. It will be a site of around 30 pages of content - which will need to be managed and developed continually. the thing is, it is for a friend of the family so I am nervous about asking for money.

What figure would you suggest I quote - beacause I have finished the agreed 3 different 'style templates' and I am ready to do business as it were.

Thanks

Liam

benihana

12:47 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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tricky one of its a friend...

how about 4 free holidays? one per villa ;)

limbo

12:55 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> how about 4 free holidays? one per villa :)

This had crossed my mind :)

And has been hinted at (although I am not sure about 4 of them) would be a nice way to be paid for the work. But I am looking at getting a house, so really need to get some cash together.

benihana

1:04 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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it really is a tough one. obviously it depends on your design/technical/seo skills, but also there percieved value of the site. what do they hope to achieve? (more bookings i guess), how much understanding of whats involved do they have?

im afraid without having intimate knowledge of your work, its going to be difficult for anyone to put a figure on it.

maybe a simple approach would be to work out how much you #deserve# on an hourly basis, factor in other costs (hosting etc), and how long the initial site build is going to take and try to come up with a figure that way. Then come to some sort of monthly maintenance agreement on an hourly/daily pay basis.

sorry, i know this doesnt really help :(

good luck

limbo

1:38 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Benihana, this is a help. thanks.

You guess was spot on - they want more bookings. and have very little knowledge of how a website is designed and maintained. Although have I given them a list of possible hosts and costs for the registration

I have good design skills (honed in print) and my technical skills are accomplished to, I would say, an intermediate level. My SEO skills are as old as my time at WW - 9 months (insert pregnacy joke here)

I think you suggestion of give them a rounded figure that I *deserve* is a good one but I am still not really sure what I *deserve*. hopefully the site will attract them customers - then I am worth many hundreds :) if they take no bookings over the web I am not worth anything. So I wondered if maybe I should take a percentage of profit and an initial design work payment. In this respect I am attaching myself financially the site and it is in mine and their best interest to make it rank well and keep it functioning perfectly.

Still that does not really get me to a figure.

HHHmmmmmnnnn?

jennifer

2:31 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Even if the design is done for a member of the family, remember that you have to eat also. And since it is for a business, you should be able to ask for reasonable compensation.

Since you have already designed the basic concept it will probably be rather difficult to ask for compensation on that part (it's much easier if both parties agree on money before anything is done).

However you should be able to work on a mutually agreeable payment for maintenance/update of the site - either a flat fee of a percentage. I receive a percentage of the gross on a number of the sites that I maintain (between 5% and 10% depending on the product/service and the client's costs).

As to possible flat fee pricing - figure out approximately how many hours it would take to do and multiply by how much you want to make per hour. Then add 10%. That will give you a place to start.

Then call your client and set up a meeting to discuss the future of the site and your compensation. They may surprise you and have already been thinking about paying you.

Good Luck.

limbo

4:25 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the advice Jennifer

I think taking a percentage of the profit after the site has gone live is probably as good agreement as I will get. Of course my site will generate so much interest I will make a fortune ;)

To decide on a fee to cover the development and content inclusion in the basic layouts I have already completed think a sum per hour is totally reasonable. But beacuse of them being longtime friends of the family I will keep it small. Maybe they will offer a week or two in the villa on top :)

Fingers crossed - I am going to write the Email this week to organise a time I could meet them to discuss money.

Maybe the will offer to fly me to Italy to talk to them.

Ta

Liam