As For The Average Salary For Us Designers!

[sewpersbider]

Currently I'm in China finishing my last semester. I'm getting a bachlor degree here. And Chinese pay much for web design and datanase development. An ordinary web designer can get decently paid with pretty awful work. Coz I'm going back home to find a job there I wanna know what's the average salary for a designer?

Just now I was searching on ebay and saw a guy with "8+ years of experience with both corporate companies and individuals" charged 7.5$ for a single webpage, 60$ for 15 pages, and 75$ for 25 pages. That sounds frightening to me. That price is way cheaper than in China, and is cheaper even for a novice designer here(China). Isn't our labor cost supposed to be higher than Chinese'? Does that guy have his work done by his Ethiopian employees?

And he offers his resume there. He has awsome experience! He knows almost every kind of latest lanuage.

[BeeDeeDubbleU]

<Coz I'm going back home to find a job >

So where is home?

[sewpersbider]

San Fransisco, CA. But I was almost brought up in China. I came to China at 11. My parents work here.

[sewpersbider]

You still havn't told me what's the average wages?

[percentages]

>You still havn't told me what's the average wages?

The "average" is difficult to determine. It is like asking how much the average USA plumber charges!

You can certainly get a lot of work in the USA at $80 per hour for basic website development. If you add graphic design, programming, marketing & business consultancy then an acceptable number can easily top $400 per hour.

Personally I would rather sit by my pool than work for $200/hour. At $350+/hour I might make a move and do some work!

[sewpersbider]

Hi, percentages. Can you tell me how to advertise myself? Where to post my resume? I AM a novice but I already did some web design work for my Chinese clients.

80$ a hour? But why they sell 25 pgs at only 75$? Is there any trick in it?

[BeeDeeDubbleU]

Have you thought about using a website? ;)

In fact is there any other way for a web designer to advertise?

[rj87uk]

Do some free website designs, and have a link to your website - free advertising.

Do some free templates that has your link in them, and offer them out to people - again free advertising.

[gterre]

I'm interested too, all of a sudden I've been in the web designing mood and I build professional webpages usually for free to people I know. However, I'm starting to have a passion for it and I was wondering how much to charge. A friend of mine who is really successful in the internet home business industry pays a professional programer 50$ an hour. I guess that that is acceptable but however If a client was to pay me 50$ an hour, they would go broke. I usually spend forever in the details and layout of a webpage and I don't think that that is a good way to charge especially if you are starting out. What is a good starting offer especially if you don't have any real clients before that actually paid.

[edited by: jatar_k at 3:57 pm (utc) on Mar. 28, 2006]
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[sewpersbider]

Do some free website designs, and have a link to your website - free advertising.
Do some free templates that has your link in them, and offer them out to people - again free advertising.
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They will steal my templates and revise em to be "theirs"

[mack]

Some will , some won't. Getting a template out there is a great way of showcasing your work.

As for average price, there is no average price, because there is no such thing as an average designer. You earn what youre worth.

Mack.

[sewpersbider]

Bump! I want more answers.

[bedlam]

If a client was to pay me 50$ an hour, they would go broke.

Hah! That's what they'd like you to think :-)

In my (urban, North American) locale, the low end of hourly rates that web agencies hire themselves out at is that high--and at rates that low, clients had better be uninformed or willing to gamble on quality...

The hourly rate for experienced and competent html/css coders in development studios around here is around $25--and remember: if you're an independent contractor, you're not going to have 40 hours per week of billable time, so you're going to need to charge much more than the hourly rate you'd get working full time in someone else's business.

-b