800 x 600 (vs) 1024 x 768 Need Front page Help

resolution...front page

[cricketwalker]

At the risk of sounding like a total idiot, I am totally frustrated with the way my pages looks so different under different resolution.

I've been able to make everything look fine with the exception of items places absolute such as shapes. Then when I look in another resolution they are way off center.
It only does this with things like shapes

I am using frontpage 2002

Help Please!

[lazerzubb]

Welcome to Webmasterworld.

Not sure about this, but if you are using DIV tags with ABSOLUTE POSITIONS for the shapes they might come out very wrong if you use tables for everything else.

Have you specified the everything in pixels or %?

Also i'm not sure if you want it, but there is JavaScript out there which sends the user to 2 different pages deppending on which resolution they have.

[cricketwalker]

Thank you for the wonderful welcome to webmaster world. I am sure I will end up spending a lot of time in here as I work through the process of learning web design. (Do we ever really become experts? giggling)

I am gonna try putting the shapes that need absolute postioning withing a table and then see if that helps

I was using pixels cuz that kept the graphics perfect but theb looked terrible in the larger resloutions so have since changed to percents.

If I can't figure this out I will be begging for the redirect script and making 2 of every page.

[cricketwalker]

Grrrrrrrrr..... going nuts trying to figure this out. Thought maybe I could put the shapes withing a new table but it won't let me do that either.

Can you take a sec to look at this site and tell me why it won't work?

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[edited by: Woz at 10:25 pm (utc) on Jan. 24, 2003]
[edit reason] no site reviews please TOS#21 [/edit]

[lazerzubb]

[EDIT]Woz was to quick[/EDIT]

[cricketwalker]

Oops... sorry!

I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that! SORRY! Newbie mistake.

Just don't know how to explain what the site is doing.

[Woz]

No worries cricketwalker,

>I am gonna try putting the shapes that need absolute postioning withing a table and then see if that helps

I don't use absolute positioning myself, but I am not sure you can position within a table. I always though positioning was absolute to the page. If so, that would explain your problem.

Onya
Woz

[lazerzubb]

As Woz says, i would probably make the shapes together so they are not 2 seperate, then use them as a background for the specific table. Then you place the logo on top of it, then will work.
When you use Absolute Positionting it will not adjust when you change resolution.

[cricketwalker]

The shapes were actually made within frontpage and are layered over each other.

Do I need to create them in psp and bring them in as a picture? Would I be right back where I was?

Even the logo is layers on top of each other.

I have never had something give me this much trouble on a page... I guess that will teach me not to get creative huh? lol

[lazerzubb]

The best thing would probably be PSP or Photoshop whatever you use, and you either create the whole logo, as it is in 800*600 now, or you create the shapes together and use that pictures as background for the table, and then you put the logo on top of the background picture.

I would go with the first option though.

[cricketwalker]

Thank you lazer... trying that now... I guess wyswyg isn't necessarliy so huh? lol

[cricketwalker]

Thank you so very much for your help!

Gonna take me a few hours to change all the pages so it shows correctly in both resolutions and the page will load just a little slower, but at least it will look good on the clients puter now!

Sure would be nice if we could convince everyone to use the same resolution huh? lol

Y'all are awesome....

If ya don't kick me out it looks like I have found a new home!

[Woz]

>hours to change all the pages
On solution, after you have the image challenge sorted, would be to make a header table in another page and then include that on all the pages either with an SSI or by using the FP Include Page function. Then if your logo or other common information stored in the header page changes you only need to make the change to that one page and it is reflected throughout the whole web. Using SSI you only need to upload the change header page as it is included on the fly at the server, or using FP you need to upload all the pages as they are pre-cnlided by FP.

>Sure would be nice if we could convince everyone to use the same resolution huh? lol
Ha, that is what make things interesting!

>I have found a new home!
Hehe, pull up a chair, rest your feet and have a good read.

Onya
Woz

[Clark]

Personally, I'd switch out of frontpage. That solved a lot of problems for me. Dreamweaver still sticks in some extra code once in a while or pulls out code in a way that I don't like but I've found it much better.

[Woz]

>Personally, I'd switch out of frontpage.

Personally, I'd stick with Frontpage. We've been down this road many, many times so lets just agree "To each his own".

Onya
Woz

[Clark]

Wow, that was shocking...coming from Woz ;)

In all seriousness, sorry...I never knew a forum like this would have FP defenders. I was expecting a ton of me toos..

Last time I used it was a couple of versions ago. Has it improved drastically?

Don't worry, no fight coming from me. Each app has it's good and bad and people get used to and have preferences and things they use it for.

[Woz]

Ack! There goes my reputation.

Sorry Clark. It's just that there have been so many discussions on the relative virtues, or lack thereof, of FP vs DW that mostly seem to end up in an US vs THEM situation, that is has become somwwhat tiresome and annoying. I was just trying to head another one off at the pass. I guess that is why I perhaps sounded (?) a little gruff.

However, I realise now that was not your intention and so, please, accept my most humble apologies.

>I never knew a forum like this would have FP defenders
You would be surprised the number of Members, and Mods, and Admins, that use FP.

Onya
Woz

<------- goes to stand in corner, takes self off meal list and restricts self to bread and water for the rest of the day.

[cricketwalker]

Y'all are absolutely wonderful! Ya have me laughing so hard here I almost fell off my chair!

Yup! I agree with both of ya... We get used to something and thats usually what works best for us. But to answer if FP has changed much... yup it sure has!

I wanna thank y'all once again for all of your help tonight. My problem was solved by creating an image of the way I wanted it to appear and the site now looks great in both resolutions. I don't even wanna look at how it looks in Netscape though. Giggling! Only so much I can deal with at a time (grinning here)

[Clark]

Hey Woz, I wasn't offended at all. My comment was relating to thinking that with a username like Woz (aka Apple) you would never be behind a Microsoft Product.

I don't participate in fight threads either.

[Woz]

>Woz (aka Apple)
Ahhh, now I understand. No, unfortunately, I am not THAT Woz.

>I wasn't offended at all.
Phew! So does that mean I can come out of the corner and have a real meal tonight? Please!?

Onya
Woz