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I know I lucked into a internet job and I will always say that it was finding WW that made me good at my job and then gave me the knowledge and confidence to leave that job to go on my own.
You can do it, people! Just think of WebmasterWorld as a free-wheeling liberal arts education about the internet. And you can get your degree in 18 months or less. ;)
The other day I went to a new accountant and he was shocked that I was making money from what he referred to as a "virtual business". He was astounded when I went through the different ways I was doing it ie. cpa, cpc, cpm etc.
When I first started I didn't even know how to send an email but with resources like WebmasterWorld I learnt very quickly.
These days I don't even build or market sites to make money. I do it because there is nothing else that I would rather do and I think that is what makes the difference and what brings in the dollars.
Just to let you know, you can make loads more money with affiliate programs if your traffic converts ;)
joined:Mar 10, 2004
"Once you know the basics of how to get good positions, don't waste your time trying to figure out the nuances of algorithms, Do Some Work."
My main motivation for becoming a webmaster is to be my own boss and to be able to earn a living without being tied to a geographic location.
The problem is that web development skills usually pay more if you work for an employer. My hobby website is now finally making more than $100/day, supposedly a magic number that people strive for, but I still get paid four times as much money doing web programming for a big corporation. I'm not quitting my day job.
5 years ago I was an employee. Now my brother and I employ 200 people. And I cannot write a line of code.
All that, by the way is thanks to Google and Yahoo.
Depends what you do with your website. If you put a bricks and mortar business behind it, it can earn a lot more and faster.
joined:Jan 3, 2003
I started creating informational type websites on subjects I was interested in and I ran advertising on them, mostly adsense
About 1 year after beginning doing freelance work, I stopped. I was making too much money from my own sites to justify my time working on other peoples.
I have had no job for years now, just my websites.
When I was originally reading this it seemed from your post that it took you a year to make so much money with Adsense that you didn't need to work. After reading it over again, I realized that the websites were there most likely for a long time...now, Adsense's been here less than 3 years, so to say "I ran adsense" and "after a year I quit my job" probably means you quit your job less than 2 years ago, so "I had no job for years" doesn't quite add up.
Can you please clarify - and I hope this preserves your anonymity: (a) approximately how long ago did you start your first site, and (b) when did you quit working for other people. This is not for myself, but for all other newbies who want to follow your path, and don't want to be mislead that this is so easy.
what process do you use to come up with ideas for sites that do not require SE's for traffic?No process really, just hard thinking and the good luck to come across an idea that works. Funny sites and sites that invoke strong opinions and emotions tend to be more viral that other types of sites, so when I'm trying to think of ideas, I keep this in mind.
What type of SEO work returns the best ROI? "
If you've got only ten minutes, I would say:
a. spend 5 minutes building a great site with great content.
b. Spend the remaining time getting links, relevant links that is.
The above is for only the white hat part of the trick.
If you want to get into the black or grey hat part of seo to be competitive, well, wish you luck, since it takes years of experience to learn it by yourself or you can pay a real SEO to help you.
Can you go into any more detail regarding how we should be spending our time promoting our sites.
I am curious how you react to the following statement from Stefan in a thread I started about Outbound links:
"Limited numbers of pertinent outbound links help you to be seen as an authority (it's quality, not quantity). G and the others see the net in clusters and focii. If your site attracts pertinent links (without recips, unless it happens naturally), and you link to sites that are the best in your field (with no recips, unless it happens naturally), then there is no spammy pattern and your site shows up as a bright little star in the cluster. SE's will like that and treat you well."
Based on what I thought was a little gem of wisdom, I am in the midst of creating a links page with useful resources for people who may require something other than what I can provide for them (related - but not in direct competition of course). Should I stop and just work these into "real pages" (whatever that means). A real page afterall could be a links page, but called something else...
Thank you for your previous responses. Would you care to tell us some of the strategies you use to obtain one-way links to your site? If you don't want to tell us directly, could you at least point us in the right direction? (Other than writing articles, forum/blog signatures and comments, directories..)