How do search engines index my site

[hollistergirl]

I have to send in submissions of my site to google at least 20 times to get it on the search engine. I also use meta tags. I have a question, I have a competitor site, who pages , all pages are on every search engine. even a new page that is developed, within minutes it is on the search engines. could you tell me what i am doing wrong.
all my pages won't index and also, why doesn't search engines index programs like coopermine gallery? thanks in advance.

[Sathish]

Do you have links from other websites pointing to your website?

This should be useful -
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[mack]

To be honest I don't ever suggest my sites to Google. In my experience it works a lot beter to concentrate on gettign as many links to your site as possible, then let Google find your site on it's own.

Google follows links. If you have links pointing to your site then google will be able to find your site via those links.

The more links you have the better. To an extent Google evaluates sites based on how popular they are. Popularite is based on the number of sites that find it "linkworthy".

Hope this helps.

Mack.

[hollistergirl]

could it also be due to having frames on my site? links on left frames, contents in center page? preventing index? even other search engines besides google are doing the same, the only thing is how to make a site with frames but without frames?

[mack]

Frames can cause a problem, although search engines are getting a lot smarter about how they handle framesets.

One question. How old is your site?

It can take quite a while from launching a site, until it appears within the results. This is sometimes refered to as the "sandbox"

In my experience it can take anywhere from three to seven months for a site to be included in Google results.

Mack.

[hollistergirl]

my site is 2yrs old and i have been having this problem for 2yrs. i have tried everything except take the frames out.

[Span]

If you don't need the frames, like for a 250Kb Java navigation or a 70 Kb dynamic JavaScript tree, I would take out the frames.
If you don't, make sure you use noframe tags with links + description to all (or at least the most important) pages. And try to get links on other sites. As much as pos

[hollistergirl]

i am linked to about 40 other site, still have a hard time, if i use non frame tags would that just make the site show up the way the site is now with frames?

[hollistergirl]

could someone direct me to a nonframe tutorial? thanks

[hollistergirl]

i am just confused as to how non frames work, would it show up as a framed site?

[stapel]

Why do you feel the need to have frames? What are you doing that, say, tables wouldn't work for?

As for getting into the search engines, you need in-links. It doesn't matter how many links you have from your site OUT to other sites. The spiders can't work backwards from those target sites back to your site. You need other sites, preferably already-indexed sites, to link to you. Other than that, try submitting (once) to DMoz. Lots of other search engines get their info from there. Just be willing to wait a while.

Eliz.