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H1 Tag

Positioning - How can i do it?

         

andmunn

2:56 am on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a problem - i want to have an "h1" tag read clearly on my page, and early in the coding - however, my page is layout as follow:

Logo
Header (navigation menu)
Body
Footer

Therefore, if i were to put the H1 code (and keywords associated with my page here) in the body, it would be below several lines of code (100ish).

Now i'm fine with that, but would my "h1" text be better placed near the top of the page (better weight in SEO?) And if so, how can i accomplish this given the layout of my page?

Any advice appreciated.
Andrew.

bill

3:51 am on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You would probably benefit from looking around for threads about source ordered content and CSS positioning. It is very possible to have your code ordered the way you want.

andmunn

4:05 am on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

Done some reading - and from what i can gather is that i can place the h1 code at the "top of my page" (lets say right under the body tag), such that it looks like this:

<BODY>
<H1> TEXT HERE </H1>
....

Now..i can give the h1 tag some special attributes in CSS, and then use absolute positioning to position it somewhere else?

Is it "frowned apon " to lets say position the h1 tag at the bottom of the page? Or does it not matter to google?

Andrew.

Reid

8:44 am on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google very much likes to see structured documents (in the code)


<h1>Page Title</h1>
H2
h3
h3
h2
h3
h3

that is the purpose of h tags.

leadegroot

8:49 am on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google doesn't care if you move things around with CSS.
Eventually, they will have to start looking at the CSS to combat some of the hidden-text-on-page spam, but ATM they dont do this, and presumably they will never care about ordering vs. position (unless you were very unlucky and used a technique that was also commonly used to spam)
but for the moment - do it, its fine.

andmunn

3:41 pm on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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THanks everyone for your input - i feel much better :)
Andrew.

Reid

2:46 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The best bet is to start with a properly structured document and then move it around with CSS - thats fine but to use H1 at the bottom of the page - what do they say "do not use header tags for style" in other words they should structure the document properly don't use h1 just because of the size, you can manipulate an h2 or 3 with CSS to make it whatever size you like.

twist

7:45 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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..<h2>Big Widgets</h2>
....<h3>round</h3>
....<h3>square</h3>
..<h2>Color Widgets</h2>
....<h3>red</h3>
......<h4>dark red</h4>
......<h4>light red</h4>
........<h5>These are more like pink</h5>
....<h3>blue</h3>
....<h3>yellow</h3>
<h1>Widgets</h1> <-- uhmm?

Why would you want your main subject header at the bottom of the page anyway?