Hover buttons not working after XP Service Pack 2

What can be done to salvage sites that have used Frontpage Hover Buttons?

[Chris27]

I have used Hover Buttons in Frontpage on hundreds of pages on my site that I was about to launch. Now XP service pack 2 not only stops them changing to the alternate image when the mouse moves over them, they do not even display properly on Internet Explorer.

I think it's because hover buttons use activeX in Frontpage. It is no use leaving a message for visitors to the site to enable activeX, since most will not understand and the user gets a security warning that will stop them wanting to do this.

I used Hover Buttons as colour customised navigation buttons, which looked impressive (glow effects, alternate images). If I have to go backwards and simplify the site to basic buttons I can, but it will cost me 2-3 weeks reworking numerous pages. If I have to spend the time, I want to get the best results for my efforts.

As alternatives to hover buttons, I considered using Interactive Buttons from Frontpage 2003, but again they don't change with mouseover due to XP SP2, although at least the button shows.

I also tried to get alternate images by using the Dynamic HTML feature to swap image on mouseover. Again, with XP SP2 this doesn't work.

I am using the buttons for navigation. Some purists hight say drop the buttons and have simple hyperlink text, but the buttons did look impressive and that is important on my site.

How can I get changing images with mouseover with minimum time and effort? I am not advanced, and feel I need to stick with Frontpage 2003. Does anyone have a fairly simple solution please?

thanks

Chris

[mack]

Very strange,
I did what you described and had a similar result. Im my case The info bar popped up warning be about content that was able to gain access to my computer. If I clicked the bar I was able to allow it, but I dont think many users whould do this.

Anyone have any solutions?

Mack.

[rogerd]

CSS [webmasterworld.com] could produce a hover effect without the need to have scripting enabled. Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Chris!

Here's a starting point: button effect [webmasterworld.com].

[Chris27]

RogerD

thanks for your help - it was really useful

On one of the listamatic examples included this code:
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#navcontainer a
{
display: block;
padding: 2px 2px 2px 24px;
border: 1px solid #333;
width: 160px;
background-color: #999;
background-image: url(images/l1_down.gif);
}
----------------------------
I have been struggling to find out what each of the 4 padding figures does. How for example would I set the height of each Nav Button to 40px?

thanks so much
Chris

[Macro]

Great! This thread is THREE days old and nobody's come in to say, "Don't use Frontpage".

Chris, if you are redoing your site this may be the time to consider having elements like the nav bar in an include page - if you haven't already done that.

Welcome to WW.

[Chris27]

RogerD

thanks for your help - it was really useful

On one of the listamatic examples included this code:
-------------------------
#navcontainer a
{
display: block;
padding: 2px 2px 2px 24px;
border: 1px solid #333;
width: 160px;
background-color: #999;
background-image: url(images/l1_down.gif);
}
----------------------------
I have been struggling to find out what each of the 4 padding figures does. How for example would I set the height of each Nav Button to 40px?

thanks so much
Chris

[encyclo]

I have been struggling to find out what each of the 4 padding figures does

It's clockwise from the top: top, right, bottom, left. For the height, try adding the rule

height:40px;

[mack]

Great! This thread is THREE days old and nobody's come in to say, "Don't use Frontpage".

I think it's one of those situation where everyone has their own preference. Although I have to agree Frontpage is looking less and less attractive, expecialy when Microsoft add security tools that block it's feaures.

Mack.

[Macro]

3 days 42 minutes! A new record :)