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Illegal to copy and past CNN and other news items?

         

lawboy

6:40 pm on Sep 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have been linking to news stories - to keep my site fresh - but I wanted to copy and paste to make experience more seamless for visitors.

Of course, I would state, "From cnn.com" etc.

kevinpate

6:43 pm on Sep 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Stating the source is attribution of the source of the information.

Attribution, although important, is not the same as having the permission of the copyright holder to republish their information.

anchordesk

6:52 pm on Sep 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Republishing the news story is out of the question unless you have the permission of the author.

As for linking ... an address is not copyrightable.

In some public school web sites I've done, I've included links, as you must do, to the news stories. CNN provides a nice listing at ht*p://www.cnn.com/desktop/content.html for this purpose which I'd use on a school news page by writing a short perl script to retrieve the current links, filter for desirable kind of news and output to the browser all via SSI or a PHP include. Made for a nice ever changing web page for students & staff to keep current.

engine

7:52 pm on Sep 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it's correct, don't copy and paste as you are asking for trouble.

To make it more visitor friendly on your site, check your chosen news sources to see if they have an RSS feed available.

BwanaZulia

7:21 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about just a blurb? Can you copy a few sentances and quote it while you link?

BZ

engine

7:54 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, no, you cannot copy anything without permission from the copyright holder. As the example was given, CNN is quite explicit about its content.

Most publishers with have a fairly tight policy on this to protect their intelectual property.

mack

8:02 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are you not allowed so many words as a description of the link under "fare use"?

Mack.

engine

8:10 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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CNN is most explicit. Nothing is permitted without permission.

There are situations where their partners may have generic arrangements for news feeds or content reproduction, up to a point.

What they are suggesting is, ask and we may share (possibly for a fee).

bruhaha

8:30 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mack asks:
Are you not allowed so many words as a description of the link under "fare [sic] use"?

engine responds:

CNN is most explicit. Nothing is permitted without permission.

CNN may say "nothing" if they like, but U.S. copyright law is defined by the U.S. Govt., not CNN. A brief quote from an article, properly attributed, is within bounds. In fact, the "fair use" provisions of copyright law that Mac alludes to allow a bit more -- if you are, for instance, reviewing or interacting with the article.

I'm sure CNN knows that they can't prohibit such use. But there are so many who try to cite "fair use" as an excuse for theft, I understand why they would make such a strong statement.

engine

7:19 am on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Fair use" is always arguable. It's far easier to give a blanket approach of "nothing" without permission.

The key point here is the permission.

Approach the source and ask permission.