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I have acces to Gimp and Fireworks but if there is something free that can do this?
Thanks
Nick
Never seen a freebie which you can edit the layers in.
DaveN
Nick
thats want i did saved me £350
DaveN
2 questions:
1. with the ebay thing: Any problems with product keys etc?
2. With 'elements': Can I export layers to jpg files etc? I need to open 'web designs' from a graphics agency that I can then build into sites...
Thanks guys..
Nick
buy orignal copies with serial number you will be ok
yes but why don't you get the graphics agency to export has jpeg for you.
DaveN
why don't you get the graphics agency to export has jpeg for you
I tried, he just thinks it's a lot of extra hassle. Problem is that this guy has become my No.1 source of income. (steady income anyway)
I don't really mind buying it, I just need to do it cheaply ;)
Nick
Nick
I think his main gripe is that he needs to show me how the page is layed out...
And he can't just save it as a jpeg. Whats the difference between a PSD and a jpeg. You can view a jpeg. Is it really worth buying photoshop to be able to view a graphic; NO. Your graphics guy is going to have a problem with anyone he works with. Do you pay him or barter for services? I would not pay unless I got something usable. Think of it like you are doing him a favor. If I did what you are talking about I would be fired.
I really don't think there is any excuse. I may sound hard but I am a graphic designer. Changing formats is part of our job.
After rereading the thread I am not sure he knows there is a save for the web feature. Ask him to use that function in photoshop. It takes less than 10 seconds.
He does all the gfx stuff and gets the clients etc, I do the coding... just the way I like it ;)
Nick
Adobe photo deluxe will open PSDs but they discontinued it. You may be able to find a copy on ebay. It was about $99. I am not sure if the new product Photo Elements [adobe.com] will open PSDs, looks like Sinner_G says it will. It is $149. <shakes head>If you must see PSDs</shakes head> I would look into that.
The main advantage of buying photoshop is yuo get to use the psd files.
the graphics guy sends you one big psd layout which you can use your expertise in chopping and hacking into small bitesize chunks
gifs for buttons
jpegs for pictures
you can remove the whitespace yourself.
just purchase a copy i use Fireworks MX, but I also own photoshop and corel draw/photopaint.
DaveN
photoshop 5.5 on ebay £87
photoshop 7 upgrade on jungle £123 how much work does he have to send your way before you recoup a couple of hundred quid.
[edited by: DaveN at 1:18 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2002]
the graphics guy sends you one big psd layout which you can use your expertise in chopping and hacking into small bitesize chunks
I would expect the graphics guy to do this. Nick_W is a programmer and his expertise is programming not graphics.
Layout of the home
product pages
all very arty and nice but I still have create a website from it and would prefer to make my own decision on whether to use gif or jpeg, these guys are used to working in the printing media not internet.
DaveN
And Elements does allow you to open psd files.
As for the rest of the discussion, I'm with Korkus. Chopping layouts into buttons and images and all is definitely a designer job. All the more so because he will now how to make smaller files, which a programmer probably won't.
how much work does he have to send your way before you recoup a couple of hundred quid.
He's already sent me quite a bit... and there's a fair bit more in the pipeline, including ongoing maintenance deals and hosting and optimization etc. It's a relationship I need to keep.
Korkus: I agree. 100% with you, but if I can't make him see it that way then I'll live with it. He's a good guy, gives me plenty of work and 'let's me get on with it'... we get on rather well, but he's from a print background.... you should see the designs! Sheesh, anyone would have thought we'd entered the 1996 timewarp! Chunky buttons rule ;)
But like I said, he gives me the layout, graphics, site plan, text and a overview of the functionality and leaves the rest to me. Perfect.
Nick
Photoshop Elements costs $99, not 149. That would be an upgrade from an old version to photoshop 7.
Your right. That catchy graphic caught my eye ;)
Well it will be good for you to get up to speed with photoshop. That way in the future cut out the middleman.
I still think you need to mention "save for the web". A lot of print guys don't know it exists. Its really quick and you don't have to flatten layers.
Nick
Daven
took me an hour and a half
Only because you didn't have the right tools. With Photoshop, it would take max 2 minutes. And in 5 minutes, you could make it move with ImageReady ;).
linux/the gimp
for the price of PS...you can buy a linux box at walmart and get the goodies for free..check out the mandrake stuff.
I have acces to Gimp and Fireworks
Gimp is offering to open PSD files, both in my Win2k installation at work and on my linux box at home. (VNC so useful) I don't have any PSD files around to check with, but I'm not used to running into false claims of funtionality in Gimp.
Anyway, I would bite the bullet and get photoshop, and upgrade every other version, for example at work i haven't upgraded everyone to 7 as we are not running osx and as great as it is the new clone tool isn't worth the upgrade cost for 30 odd machines!
It really is the best graphics tool, and also the most widely used, which is very important if you are receiving files from elsewhere. Plus it doesn't do the CV much harm! Also i wouldn't let creatives provide you with what they feel is web ready artwork! You would have a mare!
I have Photoshop 7 and Elements 2. Most of the time I prefer Elements to PS7 and its easier to use.
That said, I do prefer Fireworks MX for the web and either Elements 2 or PS7 for large print images.
