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I've noticed most experienced folks use Photoshop.
One person I know loves Paint Shop Pro 7.
Since Photoshop cost around $600 -- and Paint Shop
Pro cost around $100 -- I'm wondering what one is
giving up or not able to do working with their
digital pictures and creating graphics for the web
if they choose Paint Shop Pro over Photoshop.
What is one getting for the extra $500 that will
help in developing more successful, search engine
optimized, fast downloading, user benefiting web
sites if they choose Photoshop over Paint Shop Pro?
Could you share your thoughts and opinions on this?
Thank you very much for sharing!
Although, I do use PSP for it's very handy "Browse" feature, for quickly finding an image in a directory that may have a lot of images in it.
PSP is good and now has "export to GIF/JPG etc for web".
I would give PSP a go and if you feel the need to become a ##it hot grahpic designer consider photoshop.
You will also find quite a few tutorials on psp on the web mere mortals can afford it.
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I never used Paint Shop in my life. But I hear a lot of good about it. What I like a lot about PhotoShop is that it bundles ImageReady. It's a big time saver for graphic interfaced sites.
I am not sure Paint Shop comes with such features, does it? If not any other comparably priced program to use in combination?
There are so many features I haven't even begun to try them all out yet but the lasso tool is much more responsive in Photoshop, I like the interface to save optimized images much better and a bunch of other features I've tried are far superior in Photoshop. However, I still go back to PSP for some things - don't know if that's because I haven't learned how to do it in Photoshop yet or it is just easier in PSP.
For instance, I like being able to click two buttons to get rid of all history in PSP (edit> command history)and haven't figured out if/how to delete all history with two clicks in Photoshop yet. Copy and paste seems to require fewer steps in PSP (at least the way i use it between separate images) than in Photoshop.
I got by with PSP on the web for four years without spending the extra $500 though.
I'm a PhotoShop junkie myself, but I'm lucky to have had my employer buy it for me, so now I just have to pay upgrade pricing. :)
Oh the stories I could tell...
She makes nice graphics with it, lots of web stuff so heyit works i guess.
Thank you all for your input!
Also, thanks to Macguru and others for the warm
welcome to webmasterworld. This is a GREAT place!
Considering all the replies, I'm going to buy
Paint Shop Pro 7. Right now, Amazon is offering
a $40 rebate, too. So, it will cost me $60 for
the program....leaving me what I didn't spend on
Photoshop to spend on other computer stuff.
Thanks one and all for sharing. I might consider
Photoshop or the other program listed in the future;
but right now, it sounds as if PSP7 will do me fine.
Thanks again everyone!
For web work it is the easiest, and even shows the HEX value for a colour on the colour palette.
THE BEST FEATURE for psp is its export to web... The jpeg and gif export shows you a preview along with image size, to compare to the original image. You can thurn adjust some settings to get the perfect web image size and quality!
I use Photoshop as my main image creation & editing program, with the occassional forays into Fireworks(v.3), Corel Draw/Photopaint(v.8)... I just received Paint Shop Pro v.7 as a gift and I am very impressed!
I think you will find lots of tools and useful features with your new purchase. Enjoy! ;)
I have been using PSP for a couple of years now and find that it does almost eveything I need for web work. It is easily capable of a very professional "Photoshop" class output, and like all things in life, relects directly the amount of effort you put into mastering it. I do think that one of the areas overlooked within PSP7 is its ability to draw and integrate vector graphics and text within layers - a fabulous feature and (this must not be overlooked) at a very affordable price.
I sometimes wonder if the use of Photoshop as the norm is similar to say, the use of MS WORD in every word processing situation, where very often a smaller and cheaper program would do just fine.
I would also like to add how much I have enjoyed reading through the various discussions here - this is an absolute gold mine. Thanks to all.
I'm a Photoshop person ... self-taught, so I'm never moving to another program. Illustrator trips me up ... I need someone experienced to teach me the ropes.
Then again, maybe I'm just *old*, because I have a hard time with a few other software titles, too. Like Dreamweaver. I tried it out for a few days and handed it over to my web guy, and went back to coding by hand. :)
It's called GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program). Has anyone else heard of it, or used it?
New Photoshop has great tools like Slice, JPEG and GIF save for the Web thing. Although I've noticed that Photoshop 6 saves GIF images in slightly bigger file size than GIF89 filter in PS 4.0. Photoshop makes it easy to butch process images (with some limitations of saving files etc.).
My point is - use whatever works for you.
If you know how to work in different programs or even scripting languages - use it. I totally switched from any GUI programs to process my digital camera pictures to NetPBM - takes a lot of headaches away. All I have to do is stick my files in the directory and run the program. The outcome - all files ready to be posted on the net with HTML pages. takes 15 seconds (roughly) per image and I can watch some TV in the mean time :-)
Nowdays I even post process (after Photoshop) my buttons and other web (JPEG only) images through NetPBM before posting them on the Net as this programs literally removes all unused portions of the file and makes files smaller. I save about 20% in image size without image quality loss.
As far as I can tell, not being very used to Photoshop, PaintShopPro 7 does have all of ImageReady's features. There's an image slicer than can also handle mouseovers and output the HTML, and an image mapper (in the File->Export menu). A special and very sophisticated program, Animation Shop, is included for creating animated GIFs. There are optimizers for JPG, GIF and PNG in PSP, although not in the same window like in ImageReady, and with smaller preview pictures.
PSP does handle vectors (although not imported from real vector apps), did that before PS and is more advanced in this aspect.
Advantages of PSP include the dozens of file formats it reads and writes, the image browser, customizable button palettes, easier copy+paste (paste as new image, as selection, as new layer etc) and so on.
The greatest disadvantage is no CMYK support that I know of and bad support for resolutions other than 72dpi (the screen and web resolution), but you should really be using a vector graphics program for print things anyways.
A newcomer to web graphics or photo editing will like the dozens of pre-made buttons, shapes, picture tubes, easy texturing of shapes or type, several automatic photo enhancement filters including scratch removal, red eye removal tool, a dust removal filter for scans (Noise->Salt&Pepper), etc, but the newbie-friendlyness does NOT mean it's not a great web graphics product for professional users as well, even though you won't find it used in many design agencies for several reasons.
Anybody know if the Windows version has changed much in the last year? Anybody had success on XP?