help - found images and pages stolen

a framed site has my images and links to my order pages

[nancyb]

This is NOT my day and I only wish it *was* an April Fools' joke. I was looking for link farm pages that still link to my site and discovered another domain that has my images and exact copuies of my pages in their framed pages.

I know nothing about frames and less about javascript so I wondering if they can somehow intercept an "order"? I know, I'm probably paranoid, but ...

Please, can someone help or point me in the right direction to discover how to handle this?

[nancyb]

added:

checking all the whois sites I can't find the location of the host although it is listed as unavailable. The domain is listed as registered in Mexico, but nothing shows for the host except the name.

[PsychoTekk]

hi nancy, did they really copy your pages or link to your sites in their frames?
if they just linked you can ban them using .htaccess

[nancyb]

they copied the page with the links embedded. The also copied the images to their own site, so they did both.

I don't know if I have access to .htaccess but I contact my admin right now. Thanks

[PsychoTekk]

i don't know if it would help much but if you want i will take a look
in the whois dbs... sticky me the url if you like

[Michael Weir]

One time at work we found a site that ripped off our companies navigation code and only changed the names of the buttons. Also, they used our company logo, minus the company name. One of the employees called them up on the speaker phone and they totally played dumb. "You guys stole our design"...."huh? We did?". Basically we told them we'd take legal action if they didn't change the content. It was all a good laugh and we never checked back to see if they did change it, but it was interesting at the time.

[nancyb]

PsychoTekk
<if they just linked you can ban them using .htaccess >

My admin says I have .htaccess, but said that if they are linking to images on my site, the IP pulling in the image would be the IP from the web surfer, not their domain, so it wouldn't do any good to ban them.

If you click on one of the links inside their framed page, it opens another page on my site within their frame.

So, now my question is: since they have copied the images to their own site (not linked to mine), copied the actual page content to their site which includes links to my site for other pages and ordering -AND- these pages are in a framed page with javascript, do I need to be concerned?

[Woz]

Nancy,

If they are using your pages from your server in their frames, then this simple frame buster will stop them in their tracks.

<script>
if(top.location != document.location)
top.location = document.location;
</script>

Even so, it would be worthwhile keeping an eye on them after you install the frame buster.

If however, they have copied your pages onto their servers, then you are in a copyright situation which may require legal actions.

There have been a number of discussions along this very topic, you may want to use the search function at the top of the page and search for "copied pages" or copyright or some such similar.

Onya
Woz

[Key_Master]

Didn't you post before about a przero problem? I wonder if this is connected in some way with that.

I know how you feel (been there, done that) and will be happy to help you with whatever assistance you may need. Stickymail me an IP and a website if you are interested.

[nancyb]

Thanks, Woz for the script!

They have done both but I installed the script on the pages that were opening inside their frames.
This particular site only has a few pages so I think I'll have to keep looking. Seems dumb to hijack just a few images/pages from another site for a site that only has about 8-10 pages. I found one reference on their site that said they were a manufacturer of silver jewelry in Taxco, Mexico (where much of the cheap silver jewelry is made) so I'm thinking they may hijack all kinds of pages from individual jewelry artists and possibly use a number of domains.

Now, I'm wondering if this could be a part of the problem with my google PR0 since it would look like duplicate pages. Aargghhh! I found them in google, but not in most of the other search engines. That also seems strange...

I did search earlier before I posted, but tried "hijack" and "stolen". I'll go look for "copied" and "copyright".

Thank you all for the help!!

[Woz]

You're welcome Nancy,

I tend to put that script on any page I build simply for safety as it also stops some directories from framing your site.

Onya
Woz