How do some sites get picked up quicker on Google?

All things remaining equal, some sites do much better

[peterdouglas]

I've recently made a few websites. Some have been picked up by Google and Yahoo in a matter of days, yet others have not, even after a month.

With some sites, I submitted them to as many relevant industry directories, which helped. With others I've done nothing. Some of the site's URLs don't even show up in Google, so I know they haven't even been crawled yet.

All the sites are well optimized for search engines, using CSS, meta tags, etc. Why do some sites do really well, and very quickly while others don't?

I've got a site I did for a guy that's obsessed with his ranking on Google. There really aren't any ways to get links to him to increase link popularity, yet he's expecting to be showing up in Google any day now (about month since site launch). So far, nothing.

[diamondgrl]

"There really aren't any ways to get links to him to increase link popularity ..."

Of course there are. There are free directories, for starters. There are many others but if the problem is money, certainly there are a few dozen free directories that will give links to most sites.

[peterdouglas]

Yes, I know there are free directories, but none that are really relevant to his industry. I might try for some more generic type directories. Do you think that would make the biggest difference?

[Rollo]

Get a PR 8 or 9 to link to you... you won't have any problem getting indexed right away.

[peterdouglas]

If I could find one that would link to me, then that would be great, but most are competitors and not likely to link. But, I'll keep looking. Today I'll submit the site to some directories.

[Rollo]

You're right, they are pretty hard to come by for free, but not at all if you're willing to pay.

[peterdouglas]

Yes, I found quite a few paid sites. It could add up pretty quickly. Do you think it's worth paying for those? Sometimes I think it's just padding the pockets of the people who own the directories with no guarantee it will help with search engine ranking. What do you think?

[Reflect]

I think that if you choose the right pay site, verify there are under 50 links (Maximum. The less the better as PR is divided by amount of links on the source page on how much PR is passed), verify the source code to see how they are linking to you, verify the SPECIFIC pages PR that your link would be placed on it is worth the money.

Take care,

Brian

[peterdouglas]

Ok, thanks. I'll keep that in mind when checking out the paid sites.

I submitted to one pay site as an experiment. It seems to be a decent choice, but we'll see.

What about submitting to Dmoz? Does it help?

[DavidCastle]

Yes, submitting to Dmoz is never going to hurt, simple rules, take your site to <snip> and run it through the process, once it has an over 8 rating go to <snip> and read as many threads as you can. Join the forum and ask questions, this will give you Google backlinks. Once submitted leave it alone, do something else. Google likes the word 'Facts'- I have had a number one spot for three years buy simply adding that word in my description tags.

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[kwirl]

I think that if you choose the right pay site, verify there are under 50 links (Maximum. The less the better as PR is divided by amount of links on the source page on how much PR is passed), verify the source code to see how they are linking to you, verify the SPECIFIC pages PR that your link would be placed on it is worth the money.

That is a very misleading and not entirely correct statement. I don't know where you got your hand-me-down conclusion, but you should not use this as a guideline for PR workings at all.

[Reflect]

That is a very misleading and not entirely correct statement. I don't know where you got your hand-me-down conclusion, but you should not use this as a guideline for PR workings at all.

Your right I should backup the "hand me down conclusion"

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I guess I could keep dropping more links on WebmasterWorld but why?

Take care,

Brian