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Aaron
"Good question. I've been meaning to ask it too. What would the best way to do article marketing then? Do we need to re-write the article for every article site that we submit to?"
IMO, most important is to publish your articles on your own website first. Wait until they are indexed in Google. Then you might submit the articles as they are as to other sites as much as you like ;-)
"I just do a no index meta tag."
Why do you do that, annej?
Duplicate penalties just mean the page wont go to the top, you cant worry about google everyday, just run YOUR site.
cheers.
So my question is, if exactly the same article can rank #1 and #3 for a search term on different sites, does a dup content penalty/filter really exist?
The filter is real, but about those two sites. Were those "normal" sites or what would be considered authority sites by virtue of having loads and loads of high quality inbound links, and high PR?
Using the link: command on Google #1 had 2,550 results and #3 had 74 results. I used the actual page (rather than the home page) in the link command.
Anyway, is the implication that if you are an 'authority site' you can get away with dup content?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are suggesting that I can copy content from any other web site other than my own and Google won't mind?
"So my question is, if exactly the same article can rank #1 and #3 for a search term on different sites, does a dup content penalty/filter really exist?"
Have you seen that happening on the index, or is it just an "if" :-)
"Google's filters will only pick up on duplicate content on your own page. Meaning that many spammers will post the same article over and over again on their own site. That is where the duplicate filters kick in and ban that persons site or just penalize them."
I would say that Google would just "ignore" the duplicates on the other sites.
I would like to extend the question a bit further.
At what percentage does the pages have to "mismatch" before they are no longer considered duplicate?
This question comes to mind because of forums.
For example someone quotes an other page verbatum, but there are surrounding dissimilar text, such as navigation, formating, etc.
On letting other sites post my articles. I don't do that anymore either. I do get a lot of requests from hobby related paper and print newsletters to reprint articles and I always give permission as long as the article is not posted online.
I suspect I've been over cautious since losing a smaller site during the Bourbon update. It did come back but I don't think it's ever done as well again. It made me realize it could happen to anyone no matter how carefully you follow the rules.
"On letting other sites post my articles. I don't do that anymore either. I do get a lot of requests from hobby related paper and print newsletters to reprint articles and I always give permission as long as the article is not posted online."
Articles are very effective viral marketing tool. Of course, in addition to sharing something good among, especially relevant sites.
Maybe you wish to consider to wait 3 months or so for each article on your site, before allowing hosting it on other sites. By that way, Google would have the opportunity to decide which one is the original one ;-)
I agree with ted. I don't think that there is something like duplicate penalty, but rather a filter.
Still, it's always possible that Google might use the percentage of duplicate content as a "signal of quality" (along with many other factors).
Yes, I saw it just the other day, same article on different websites ranking #1 and #3 in the search results.
