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11:09 am on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few years ago I had a site indexed via IP address. I think this happened because I posted the IP on a message and since then google indexed it.

If I search for bluewidgets I'll see pages from bluewidgets.co.uk and pages from 123.123.123.123

A year and a half ago I moved to a new dedicated server thus the IP address changed.

At the time I asked Google to remove the 123.123.123.123 listings and got back a reply saying something like 'the site will automatically be removed in about 3 months due to being a dead link'.

Six months later the listing was still there so I contacted G again and got the same reply.

Now one and a half years later I'm still seeing entries for this old IP version of the site!

Am I being penalised for duplicate penalties?
Probably, yes. Because there are about 500 pages listed for the IP address.

What can I do about it?
I don't know. Contacted G twice and have used the quick URL remove tool but the site will not go from the index.

BTW, the IP address has been non existent for about a year and a half. It no longer exists.

11:14 pm on June 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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URL Removal Tool doesn't remove a url from Google's index. It only prevents urls from being displayed in Google's SERP for a few months.

If your old pages are labeled supplemental, they shouldn't be causing your new site any problems.

You can try spamming the hell out of Google with your old IP addy and get it banned (just kidding :D ).

9:55 am on June 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well either way the URL tool is not working if you enter an IP instead of URL. I guess what is needed is an IP removal tool :)

But how can I spam the hell out of G from the IP address?

I moved to a different hoster and thus have no contact with the old IP address. In fact the IP address became non existant 18 months ago.

What worries me is that if I search for part of an article G returns two listing:

search: "Blue widgets are found in the northern hemisphere and are more green than blue"

G returns two results:

Northern Blue Widgets
Blue widgets are found in the northern hemisphere and are more green than blue
www.bluewidgets.co.uk

Northern Blue Widgets
Blue widgets are found in the northern hemisphere and are more green than blue
123.123.123.123

Both pages are identical except for the fact that one page is live and the other got 'switched off' 18 months ago. So how come G still returns it?

1:58 am on June 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Frank, I have exactly the same problem. Indexing by google by IP and by domain. We got a new database upgrade three months and use some beta testing using only the IP number. That must be how it got indexed.

Problem is that now my domain pages are dropping and sometimes a page shows two listing, one by IP and one by domain.

I tried using the URL remove tool on Sunday, only submitting some individual test pages. Don't want to get my whole site removed.

Also send reinclusion request explaining the problem and asking for removal of the IP indexed pages, about 800 of them. Google did reply right away and says they will removed the IP pages ASAP but says Thank you for your reply. We'll delete our cached copies of these pages as
soon as possible.

After we delete the cached copy of a page, the page's title and URL will
continue to display for the same search queries until our robots revisit
the site. Users will still be able to visit the live page. Because this
information has been removed from the live page, this page will not return
as a result for searches on related keywords after our next crawl. We
appreciate your patience during this process

I don't know what that last Parg. means. Also not as optimistic after reading your post. Any input?

9:35 am on June 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Reading on the Google help center it says something like 'a site will continue to be indexed as long as other sites link to it.... if you want a site to be remove from the index you have to get the sites linking to it to remove their links'.

I did a search for sites linking to 123.123.123.123 and there were about 5.

Some were messageboards which I contacted but the others were mfa non contactable sites.

I don't know if getting those sites to remove the links to the IP will sort this out. I have no faith in G wanting to bother about this either.

Is it worth phone calling G (here in UK / Eire or US) instead of mailing? I mailed again and got no reply - not even an auto reply.

What is a big concern is why G is still returning pages for a site which ceased to exist 18 months ago!

It seems that they want to sandbox brand new sites but once a site is in the system it can not escape even if the plug is pulled on it.

6:27 pm on June 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If the pages are marked as Supplemental then Google may hang on to the data for several years.
7:57 pm on June 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Mix of supplement and standard.

BTW, unable to use the URL removal tool. When I get to the URL to remove / click Remove Outdated Link it times out...

I read elsewhere that the URL removal tool will try and locate the URL you are removing before confirming. Obviously that will fail in this instance as the IP address no longer exist.

Going around in circles here.

8:08 pm on June 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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since the site is on a different ip address throw up a welcome page something other than your site and forget about it put some google ads on it and watch till it quits getting traffic
12:20 am on June 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ahhh, read the earlier threads!

It's not my IP anymore. The IP no longer exists!

Here's the problem. Google caches a site based on the IP. After a while the site changes to a new webhoster but Google continues to store the old IP and the live site (with it's new IP)

After EIGHTEEN MONTHS! Google still thinks the site is active in the old IP as well as the new place.

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Tonight I receive a reply from G. after my email of 5 days ago. It goes like:

"Thank you for your note. Please be assured that we'll delete our cached copies of these pages as soon as possible. After we delete the cached copy
of a page, the page's title and URL will continue to display for the same search queries until our robots revisit the site."

Uhhh - the site doesn't exist. It hasn't existed for 18 months. Google can't visit it! Where's the nearest brick wall?

"Additionally, please note that we're unable to manually remove pages from our search results."

Well do it automatically then!

"If these pages resolve to true 404 errors, you can remove them using our automatic URL removal system at [services.google.com...]

I've done that a dozen times this week and each time the page times out as the 123.123.123.123 site doesn't exist.

I can't 'automatically' delete it and Google says it can't 'manually' delete it.

The first person to sort this out gets a beer.

12:24 am on June 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It cannot be sorted. You just have to wait for the ~3 year timeout on Supplemental Results.

Those pages will be there all through 2007 and into 2008. I have been through this before.

You got the same answer that I got back in 2004. They didn't fix it then, and they will not fix it now.

12:26 am on June 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What about filing a DMCA against G?

Maybe I could sue G's alfie bass for virtually duplicating my content?

11:18 pm on June 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think I'm getting somewhere on this now.

Checking today shows that the number of pages indexed by expired IP has reduced and all but one of them are supplemental.

 

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