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Somethings Up Right Now! -- 30 domains just went "home page only"

     

tiori

10:01 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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All of my websites (30 of them) now show only the homepage when doing a site:www.domain.com .....

This just happenned within the last hour. Previously had thousands of sup's and regular pages.

Kangol

2:37 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On 64.233.167.104 I did a search for a prescription drug and I noticed something new (to me anyway):

Refine results for "search term":
Drug uses Research papers From medical establishment
Side effects News For health professionals

Its something Yahoo does with the "Also try:"

Kangol

2:59 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I noticed that Google added "refinements" on 64.233.167.104. It searches using a "keyword more:drug_uses". I see it only for prescription drugs. Is it a new or old thing?

Alby

3:01 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing the results that were previous on AOL migrate across to Google.com, are others seeing the same thing? I must say that these results look the cleanest I have seen Google in years.

Kangol

3:11 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Alby,
What's your google.com IP?

Powdork

3:29 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My homepage is missing on 64.233.167.104. No worries though. That's what makes dances so much fun.

JoaoJose

3:33 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've been getting the clean results all day long today.

Hope it sticks.

nutsandbolts

4:47 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh dear... Makes me glad I stopped looking at the SERPS a while ago when I see results like this! Still, could be worse...erm...

g1smd

6:18 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Big changes today...

For the last few days, on the "experimental" DC, the erroneous search that previously returned 900 vague supplemental results (that didn't match the search query) instead of just a few dozen relevant supplemental results (for deleted pages and expired domains), occasionally returned zero results - which is the correct result if Google ever cleaned up the old supplementals - for a phone number that has been completely removed from the web during the last few years.

Today, many DCs return zero results every time for this and several other similar queries for stuff that Google should have cleaned up long ago.

Now, is this a DC that has been cleaned up of old Supplemental Results, or is it a DC that has the Supplemental data missing and Google is going to add it back in again, in the next few days?

Time will tell.

.

A large website whose domain expired two weeks ago, had 12 000 pages listed, many of them supplemental for the last few years. The root shows a "domain expired" message. All other pages are gone from the site.

Google reindexed the site and overnight the number of listed pages has been reduced to under 100 on the "experimental" DC. It seems like Google is aggressively throwing away old data, whereas before they would have held on to it for years and years...

On the old "normal" DCs, Google still shows 12 000 pages listed.

.

Is this the "big cleanup" started, or just some glitch?

steveb

7:49 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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LOL, I hadn't thought of that. Seeing progress could actually be a glitch. Now that is scary.

Still, the first really hopeful signs in two years.

b2net

8:54 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My banned domain is back after a 14 month penalty. Cool.

g1smd

9:00 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In which set of results?

BigDaddy "A", BigDaddy "B", or the "experimental" stuff?

b2net

9:10 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's back on all datacenters. Maybe my re-inclusion isn't related to what you're watching right now.

g1smd

9:19 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That observation is important.

Some changes are only happening on some DCs.

Other changes are happening on all DCs.

Right Reading

4:15 am on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Searching for a phrase that's pretty specific to my site I find archaic results (defunct urls, etc.) from these DCs:

64.233.161.107, 64.233.161.147, 64.233.179.99, 64.233.179.104, 216.239.37.99, 216.239.39.99, 64.233.161.99, 64.233.161.104, 216.239.39.104, 216.239.37.104, 64.233.179.107, 72.14.207.107, 216.239.37.107, 216.239.39.107

And streamed down results that find ONLY my page here:

64.233.171.99, 64.233.171.104, 64.233.171.107, 64.233.171.147, 64.233.185.99, 64.233.185.104, 64.233.187.99. 64.233.187.104, 64.233.189.104, 216.239.53.99, 216.239.57.99, 66.102.7.99, 72.14.203.99, 72.14.203.104, 72.14.203.107, 72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104, 72.14.207.107, 64.233.167.99, 64.233.167.104, 216.239.63.104, 216.239.53.104, 66.102.7.104, 216.239.57.104, 216.239.53.107, 216.239.57.107, 16.239.57.147, 66.102.7.147, 64.233.167.147

These appear to show in-between results:

64.233.183.99, 64.233.183.104, 216.239.59.99, 66.102.11.99, 66.102.9.99, 216.239.59.104, 66.102.11.104, 66.102.9.104, 64.233.183.107, 66.102.9.107, 216.239.59.107, 216.239.59.147

I don't think Google's broken -- I think this is an intentional purge. I'm a little bummed about it because they are crawling a lot of my pages and then withholding them from results for reasons unknown to me (they are especially withholding newer pages with unique content). I guess all I can do is try to improve my site and hope for incremental improvements over time.

dhaliwal

5:43 am on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i have noticed the same thing for many websites, but it keeps on coming back to original numbers after a while

lgn1

12:15 pm on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I noticed things have been quiet over the weekend as far as the update is concerned. The new results have been stuck at 23 to 25 datacenters for 48 hours now. Hopefully Google is not having second thoughts.

claus

10:28 pm on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I happened to post this in the wrong thread, so I'll try here:

Has anybody considered that it may be the "site:" command that has gone AWOL, and not the index?

(like the "link:" command did some time back)

---
And by the way, I feel like dancing...

whatcartridge

10:39 pm on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Claus is right.

A search for

site:http://www.mydomain.com

returns 107 results

A search for

site:http://www.mydomain.com -http://www.mydomain.com/subdomain

returns 2060 results

So it seems the 'minus' operator is actually adding pages.

Too screwy. I might check again in a weeks time.

ClintFC

11:04 pm on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No. Claus is wrong.

It is definately not the "site:" command that's gone wrong. The pages are missing from the index.

g1smd

11:09 pm on May 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see the same results for site:domain.com and inurl:domain.com wherever I look, so I do not think the site command is broken.

However I do see things like 3500 pages in BD and 30 in "experimental" DC. The "experimental" DC now has two versions, and one seems to have dropped all Supplemental Results from before 2005 June.

claus

1:05 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Cool, I don't mind being wrong every now and then :)

whatcartridge

5:07 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Claus, you are NOT wrong

A search for another of my sites revealed:

"Your search - site:myotherdomain.com - did not match any documents."

However upon checking my logs I am getting Google referrals for the site. Checking Google, the site appears in the SERPs for certain searches but only returns Supplemental results (all pages are supplemental for this site!).

So as far as I can see the site: command does not include supps, only pages from the main index.

g1smd

8:14 pm on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, GoogleGuy has posted that some Supplemental Results are missing from the site: command:
[webmasterworld.com...]

claus

9:37 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ah, so not only was I wrong, I was wrong about being wrong ;)

Nice find g1smd - so, we have confirmation that the "site:" search does not work like (it should, or) we would like it to.

So what we have here are -- apparently -- some (supplemental) pages that are not being counted as part of the site on which they are hosted... In other words, the link between page and site has been broken.

ClintFC

9:51 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No. It's still wrong I'm afraid. This still has nothing whatsoever to do with the missing pages problem.

It is not uncommon for a "site:" search to occasionaly return "No results". I know because I am monitoring this stuff quite carefuly at the moment. Bear in mind that a datacentre is actually a large cluster of machines. When a datacentre is in flux, you will get wildly different results from it from one second to the next as your requests are handled by the different machines in the cluster. This will happen for a short period and then settle down. During this period, you will often get "no results" for a "site:" search from some of the machines in the cluster.

g1smd

10:26 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are "multiple" problems.

Some only show in specific datacentres. Others are global.

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