MSN search quicker than google to update fresh pages and cache

[trinorthlighting]

I have noticed that MSN has been a lot quicker in updating fresh pages on my sites. It seems as if google is struggling with up to date content and indexing pages. I have googlebot indexing my site every day but it is very slow to update its cache and index. Is everyone else noticing this trend?

[steveb]

This is past silly now, but depending on the time of day or even the datacenter hit, fresh dates are lost temporarily with Google. The actual Google information is ebay cached Mar5; foxnews cached Mar5, so I guess that just blows the assertion out of the water, huh?

Every site I have gets hit every day from Google and every new page gets indexed and ranked within 24 hours.

And that proves nothing in itself...
although since MSN never fully indexes anything over a certain number of pages there really is no comparison.

[cleanup]

I would not like to comment on the caching, but I am noticing that the sheer number *non-existant* pages one comes across in the some google searches now is quite astonishing.

Last night I was researching a particular "keyword group" which returned about 500 results on Google.

Great I thought until I realised that about half the pages no longer existed or the content was no longer relevent to the snippet displayed.

So I went to MSN. Less results for the same key phrase, about 200 instead of 500 but they were ALL relevant or at the very least the SERPS text corresponded to the page content.

[jo1ene]

I'll tell you one thing, the don't obey my robots.txt file. In other words, there's a lot of CRAP from my demo sites in there.

Google does.

[trinorthlighting]

Umm, I see there is another post about thousands of pages with very old cache, call it big daddy issues or whatever else, but google is having some issues.

[stealthcow]

I work as a web developer for a company that launches about 3 websites a week - I do a lot of the SEO and can say from experience that MSN does index the website a lot quicker than Google. We often launch a website and within 24-48 hours its showing on MSN search, and usually in first position for the targeted key phrases.

Google on the other hand, takes about 3 to 4 weeks to show the same results

[nippi]

google is slower
but goes deeper
msn seems to show results after one quick flick through, google asks you to prove you are goign to keep a page up, and then it shows it.
They have technology to deal with news that can not be handled like this, otherwise, seems fine.

[texasville]

>>>>google is slower
but goes deeper
msn seems to show results after one quick flick through, google asks you to prove you are goign to keep a page up, and then it shows it.
They have technology to deal with news that can not be handled like this, otherwise, seems fine. <<<<

I don't believe that. Google thinks it's algo is slick and makes everything seem so but then why does google keep a page indexed that's been 404 for over a year. Google isn't asking you to keep it. It doesn't know how to handle it.
Deeper? Google can't even seem to properly crawl even small sites.
MSN has no problem with that and neither does Y.

[trinorthlighting]

I agree.... Seems like google is trapped under all of that old infomation they have. I wonder how many of those billions of pages they say they have are old and non existant. Its not the size that appeals to the average searcher, its the freshness and relevancy.