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Call and email the site owner. Be polite but firm. Don't allow them to give yout he run around and say oh it will be done in 3 weeks. Now please is the answer.
Email the hosts as well explaining everything meticulously and politely. They are usually receptive to these issues as they could be in the same boat and it makes their business look bad.
No positive action then, file DMCA.
I've taken this route many times, no DMCA filed to date.
Yes, I think you probably need to identify all the pages for a complaint to the host though, which is a royal PITA. If you only list some, then there's a good chance that the copier will just remove those.. then you'll have to repeat the process all over again.
For Google DMCA complaints, yes definitely list every URL. They'll need them to be able to remove those URLs from the index.
What's the best way to tell where the site is hosted?
"The best way"? I dunno. But on a Windows box, one method might be to "ping" the domain name. In the process of pinging, the DOS window will display the IP address of the domain name. Take this info and go to some place that traces IP addresses (I use ws.arin.net/whois for this), and you should be able to find some named entity with whom you can pursue your DMCA claim.
For instance (assuming a WW example is okay), pinging "webmasterworld.com" returns an IP address of "18.104.22.168", which resolves to "Rackspace.com".
Hope that helps a bit.
I keep reading this advice over and over and over and over. Why bother to go after someone's hosting? The infringer can get new hosting in five minutes and be spidered at the new host within a week. This is hardly productive. It would be better to file a dmca with the registrar for the domain name (if possible) and stop the thief deadcold----you don't recover from having your domain stripped away since all your IBL links become useless. Follow C. Powell's advice: cut off its head and kill it.
If possible, talk to the host of the offending site....
This is hardly productive. It would be better to file a dmca with the registrar for the domain name....
But does the domain-name registrar have any (statutory) liability with regards to what is posted at the site using that domain name? The server host does, but does the registrar? Would posting plagiarism to one's web site even violate a registrar's Terms of Service? So would complaining to the registrar accomplish anything?
I'm not trying to be argumentative; I don't know the answer, so I'm asking.
Logically yes, but in actual practice seldom. I have yet to have any infringers come back with new domains or new hosting. Many pro spammers know the second time around you could wipe them out entirety with a DMCA to a search engine. Plus word gets around about what they are doing. You must also consider the mindset of the infringer. Theyíre aware of all the time spent just to be squashed again. Many a court case is won just for the fact an offender goes right back to doing what he previously did after warnings.
As one hosting rep told me you obviously havenít had a multi-million dollar suit filed against you. The offender many times ignores the DMCAís sent directly to him. The hosting finds out about it through a lawsuit. Then they pay attorneys to extricate themselves from the matter while the slime ball doesnít bother to show up for court.
I don't know of many registrars that deal in these matters.
All routes have pluses and minuses. Offenders usually flock to hosting and search engines that are protective of their activities.