Same site: pages completely gone from results, others #1

How to explain this?

[silverbytes]

Site 4 years PR 5 on home PR 4 on internals. Ranked ok in most of pages (first results page)

While some pages still keep #1 or first positions others disappeared completely (some 200 and beyond others nothing at all)

I can't find a logical answer to this. Pages keep it's pr.

I moved from hosting month ago but don't see how can that harm. Files were on my old server 2 weeks, then deleted those. I see google crawling the site good. Keywords or content didn't change much, links were growing naturally. And what's weird some pages are still ok while others dissapeared.

[pickman]

Same extact thing going on with my site. Anyone have an advice? Should we just wait and see if things settle out? I was number 1 this am, ten minutes later I don't even show up in the serps. If I go directly to my site, my pr is up one point. very strange?

[coosblues]

Have you looked into duplicate content. The exact thing happened to my site. I found portions of my site all over the net.

[silverbytes]

And what action did you take once found?
BTW how did you find the duplicated content?

[coosblues]

I just found copied content last night, perhaps by luck. I took a large paragraph from my site and entered it into google. I should have been the only site, but up came about 4 supplementals and then my site. Checking one of the sites lead me to my stolen content - on a forum much like this. I'd be happy to give you my url because frankly Google hasn't helped me and I'm not going to give up original content to please Google when there's no doubt the content is mine. I lost everything in G except my index page. My pages are there somewhere, so I know it's not a ban but a penality.

[silverbytes]

I don't think that dirty trick may fool google. If they penalize that everybody would be copying competitors content on cheap hostings to rank 1st.
Howerver still have no clue about what made *some* of my pages went down.
I have a big amount of 301 I set, due to inexistant pages on my site but they point to internal pages on my site... (perpahps google didn't like that?)

[genwed]

I just did as Coosblues did and put this statement from my home page in google- "Once you find a possible relative in one of the marriage record indexes, you will be able to contact the state or county and order a copy of the original".

It came up with my site and two others that have not just my content, one has my google cached (today) home page, and the other has my home page in something like a frame which my frames buster script isn't working on. I made a change and republished then refreshed that page, and the change showed up. All the links on my pages are changed to php addresses, and go thru the rest of my site that way.

Anyone have any ideas about what to do about these sites? Are these counting as duplicate content?

[silverbytes]

I don't notice my site has duplicated content, may it be some other thing?

[ladijeep]

Hi! I am noticing the same thing on two of our sites. Pages show page ranks of 5 and 4 but some are no longer in the cache.

I just added the google sitemap to one site and a few days later that is when I noticed the change to this site, the other site was like that even without using the google sitemap.

I now have the google sitemap on both sites and I am going to watch. Is google having a problem crawling?

[charlier]

Do you have full URLs in your internal links. Thats the first thing I would check and change them all to full http:... if you don't.

[skippy]

ah.... Genweb it looks like you just did one to yourself. Webmasterworld ranks number one for that phase.

[zoltan]

Do you mean that Googlebot can not read and follow a link like: <a href="/link.html"> and you have to use <a href="http://www.mysite.com/link.html">? It is hard to believe. Anyone has some proofs regarding this issue?

[charlier]

Google can certainly follow the relative link format but if you use absolute links and someone copies your pages and puts them in a new domain it means they either have to go in and substitute their domain for yours in the internal links or else they will still point to you.

[theBear]

charlier,

Almost but not quite.

genwed,

You have sticky

[silverbytes]

I dont' see the benefit of having absolute paths.
Is there any?

BTW I found the problem on my case ans it's scary: other site is using same IP as mine, in serp I found one:

Apache Status
it's a forum related to a lingerie or similar site!
Result looks like this

title: Apache Status

120-5, 23204, 0/8/53, W, 0.11, 145, 0, 0.0, 0.15, 0.66, 24.232.59.7, www.mysitecom.com, GET /img/mysite.htm
thelingeriesitethatisnot.mine/phpBB2/ - 42k

That is a big problem. I Even payed my hosting company to use an unique IP. Should I take legal actions against them , or is it a kind o hijack?

The problem is my site is gone from serp due to that....

[charlier]

The advantage of having absolute URLs is that you avoid the canonical URL problem. Suppose you have a www.example.com and an www.example.co.uk, if you use relative URLs and you get spidered by a bot that starts at your home page all the links it finds will be in the .co.uk or the .com domain space depending on which domain/URL it requests when it asks for the home page, so all the pages will have the same number of internal links in both domains. If you use absolute URLs then only the domain that you put in the absolute URL will show up in the internal links the bot finds. For most sites this means that most of the internal pages will have no links to them using the depricated domain, therefore, the domain in the absolute link will be the one that google will call the 'canonical' one.

[theBear]

charlier yes and no on avoiding the canonical issue.

silverbytes that crossfire is a Googlebug in all probability.

or another little nasty out there.

Is that a cPanel WHM screen?

If so that IP addy belongs to:

owner: Cablevision S.A.
ownerid: AR-CASA24-LACNIC
address: Bonpland 1745
address: Buenos Aires, Capital Federal 1414
country: AR

And I'll bet it isn't on your IP at all.

[silverbytes]

The cpanel screen is because hosting is changing my IP so dns are not fully propagated yet. (they are actually) I have my doubts if about if all that was caused by a mess in configuration.
I think there was many concurrent issues.
The jagger, the hosting down, the shared IP I wasn't advised and surely others I can't still see.
Assuming the whole problem is google crawled my "good rank pages" and found "Apache Status" as title, and no content. How do I revert that? Will just keep waiting to another better crawl make my page appear again or are those finally forever dead?