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HTML to ASP = Google Sandbox?

HTML to ASP = Google Sandbox?

         

oldshue

6:57 am on Sep 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have had 2 websites for 7 years that rank well within their main keywords on Google. Recently we switched from HTML to ASP and now the rankings are horrible. Wondering what the consensus is for HTML to ASP and does this screw up rankings and how long before they correct? Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

J

Bmetz

2:06 pm on Sep 26, 2005 (gmt 0)



The problem isn't the technology switch from HTML to ASP, but rather your URLs changing.

index.html > index.asp

By changing the URL, you trip Google's duplicate content filter.

Lorel

5:28 pm on Sep 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It could also be a problem with the .asp if you are using Session IDs:


A Comment from googleguy:

So what's the problem with a session id, and why doesn't Googlebot crawl them? Well, we don't just have one machine for crawling. Instead, there are lots of bot machines fetching pages in parallel. For a really large site, it's easily possible to have many different machines at Google fetch a page from that site. The problem is that the web server would serve up a different session-id to each machine! That means that you'd get the exact same page multiple times--only the url would be different. It's things like that which keep some search engines from crawling dynamic pages, and especially pages with session-ids.

Google can do some smart stuff looking for duplicates, and sometimes inferring about the url parameters, but in general it's best to play it safe and avoid session-ids whenever you can.

Google's Webmaster Technical Guidelines:

*Use a text browser such as Lynx to examine your site, because most search engine spiders see your site much as Lynx would. If fancy features such as JavaScript, cookies, session IDs, frames, DHTML, or Flash keep you from seeing all of your site in a text browser, then search engine spiders may have trouble crawling your site.
*Allow search bots to crawl your sites without session IDs or arguments that track their path through the site. These techniques are useful for tracking individual user behavior, but the access pattern of bots is entirely different. Using these techniques may result in incomplete indexing of your site, as bots may not be able to eliminate URLs that look different but actually point to the

jd01

6:12 pm on Sep 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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By changing the URL, you trip Google's duplicate content filter.

Very highly doubt this is a duplicate content filter, but rather it is the same as changing the path to every page on your site -- your site is 'new' again.

See Patent App. for details on 'site age'

IOW Changing the extention has the same effect as changing the actual name of every page.

If you are not too far removed from the changes, you might try to serve the new asp content at the old location with mod_rewrite.

Justin

mrMister

2:08 am on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just for reference. In IIS you can map .html to the ASP (or ASP.NET) ISAPI. There's absolutely no need to be changing your URIs just because you change the technology that powers your site:

[w3.org...]

webdude

12:01 pm on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I agree with jd01. Changing file names on a site can drop it like a hot potato. I redid a site and changed all file names to better reflect the page content and it took up to 6 months to get it back in the first 100 in the SERPs. Google thinks it's a brand new site now. Your'e gonna have to just wait.