Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
I can't afford to get this site penalized
In that case I would take no chances if I were you, and add just a few (5-10?) pages each day. Perhaps you can start with the products that you think would be most popular/profitable, using some sort of "80/20"-rule?
Obviously, if you want to add 15000 products like that, it would take a while... Another idea that just occurred to me would be to start by adding 5-10 pages per day the first week, then 10-20 the next, then 20-50 per day, etc.
So, google will discover them at its own speed.
I highly doubt that adding all the content at once to an existing site would cause problems.
If you are doing seo, yes - Google is the webmaster. You have to respect their methods unless you don't care how they rank your site.
I would add pages on a percentage basis. If you have 75 now, add 20% more each week. It will be slow but create a good profile of a growing site.
redirect the old pages
I think the key problem is that he wants to add 15K pages to a site that currently only has 75... (Redirecting with a 301 would be the correct if he makes big changes to the structure of the existing site, but I did not think that was the main issue here.)
So I would definitely proceed with caution. Exactly where the flag-waving point occurs, is anyone's guess, but logic would dictate that a 1996 site with only 75 pages has already been "catalogued" as a fairly static site.
I wholly subscribe to OddSods theory of supplementing the addition of new pages with inbound links, the deeper the better.
TJ
I ask because having 15,000 product pages with one user review per page doesn't sound very "organic." From your description, one might easily suspect that the 15,000 product pages were designed more for search engines than for users.
When we do it again, I'd definitely try some of the suggestions here, gradually add pgs if possible (easier said than done with db), get deep links to key sections, etc. and hope for the best. Websites get redesigned all the time and often have no choice but to add large amount of new pages, just know that if you do it there's a good chance it could hurt you for awhile but it should eventually take hold after they've been indexed and had a chance to prove their legitimacy.
My main thought is to make sure the pages have real content and are as unique looking as possible (titles, headings, text, etc.). We did this on another site awhile back after fixing a dynamic url nightmare that took it from 25 to over 700 pages, but it had tons of good, long, unique content, and it was ranking on new searches within days, and traffic tripled immediately, then doubled, then 5+ times that after being fully indexed at the end of that first month. No deep links either so who knows. Think a lot depends on your sites history and trust level/rank as well. Anyway, good luck!
Possibly even giving some thought as to which of those 15,000 products you might want to leave out as inappropriate for this particular site. Too many niche sites try to become Amazon which makes it hard for their customers to find items appropriate for that niche. You don't go to you local bagel shop to buy a laWebmasterWorlder.
I am getting different opinions on this and I would like to know what have been your experiences with this.
I hear blogs are the newest seo tool for building and indexing pages quickly.
Thank You in advance for your responses.
While we are on this subject of content and building pages. What is actually the best way to add content to website pages? Article Blogs, CMS system etc....I hear blogs are the newest seo tool for building and indexing pages quickly.
Instead of thinking about how to get content up quickly, it might be wiser to build content that will have intrinsic value for search engines and users. After all, by the time the average Webmaster has heard about the "newest seo tool," the products of such tools are likely to be in Google's crosshairs.
The same goes for CMS, shopping carts, and hand coded PHP or HTML.
once you get past the "is it crawler friendly" question, you should be more concerned with whether the functionality matches your need. For example, blogs are not the ideal route to take if you are providing mostly evergreen content.
EFV, is it the case that large volumes of content have no intrinsic value to either SEs or users unless it has been hand coded and typed up word for word?
I need Spider Food, People Food and traffic getter? How do I setup my blog to achieve all of this goals.
I hear all the time that spiders love blogs, how can I setup my blog that will allow me to obtain good serps as well as have value to the end user?
Just having a blog doesn't automatically get you crawled and get you good ranking. You still have to pay attention to the other things that the SE is looking for.
My publically available livejournal blog is a half a year old, and only has one page in the index. It isn't because of any problems with livejournal, it is because my "friends list" is pretty much a closed circle, and we don't do anything to try and get found. You have to produce content that is worth linking to, and get people to link to it.
If Google has found the blog homepage on my site why doesn't the spiders come by and pick up the rest of the blog pages?
The blog is only about 3 weeks old but I have noticed other engines have picked up the other blog pages but as of yet google has not.
Is this normal? Should I be worried?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
BEWARE! Was adding 20 unique pages a week to 9 out of 10 sites ... only one site not to be struck off was one with no unqiue information and no added information. All others got a HUGE penatly like number 1 for 4 year for v competative keywords to postion 87 now. Google is not able to take new information. If you have a site that is doing well dont change it or add to it.
This search engine has seriously had its day in my opinion
