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The Same Article on Multiple Sites?

Will Google penalise for this?

         

andreww

5:07 am on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One guy emailed me and asked to place his articles with backlinks to his site. Articles are the same as on his site.
Can google penalize my site for plcing same pages from other site?

reseller

2:49 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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andreww

<One guy emailed me and asked to place his articles with backlinks to his site. Articles are the same as on his site.
Can google penalize my site for plcing same pages from other site?>

Since 1997 I have been hosting articles of leading marketers, SEOs, Networking specialists etc. and I shall continue to add more whenever I find quality articles.

Those articles add great value to my site and several of them recieve high traffic.

I add the article text plus the writer resource box (including his/her link) to my own site templates, not those of the writers of course.

I canīt see why you should be penalized by Google or any other search engine for that.

[edited by: reseller at 2:55 pm (utc) on April 26, 2005]

birdstuff

2:53 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have thousands of articles re-printed on my sites. There are also literally hundreds of other sites that have published my own articles in exchange for a link back. I have NEVER had a major duplicate content problem.

andreww

6:12 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You say articles improve search ranking of my site.
More articles means better rankings.

But what If i copy and paste a text from other site which is ranked well. Will my site be also ranked well?

How google monitor this?

steveb

7:54 pm on Apr 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Of course they can and should penalize a page that has an article copy. It would be dumb to rank the same content over and over and over. They don't always figure out all the copies though.

Robert Charlton

5:59 am on Apr 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They don't always figure out all the copies though.

In areas I monitor, I've regularly seen dupes of syndicated articles get nuked by Google, and I'd certainly never let another site use my content.

I've also seen, though, several copies of at least one "classic" article rank very well for some fairly competitive terms. I believe that the different copies stay in the index and rank because they each have good backlinks from independent sources.

...Can google penalize my site for plcing same pages from other site?

Conceivably, good links might help these pages stay in as well. I have no idea whether, if they were nuked as dupes, it would have any bad effect on the rest of your site.

My guess is that there may be a threshold for a site as a whole... ie, if say 60% of your content were dupe content, Google might not see your site as a good quality site... or your internal links might lose their effectiveness, something like that... but I don't know for sure.

Robert Charlton

6:01 am on Apr 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How google monitor this?

They use computers. ;)

Take a look at copyscape.com before you think that dupe copy will go unnoticed.

elaineb

8:13 am on Apr 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I made 3 nice pages for my site and told a friend, who had a broadly similar site, to feel free to copy them and insert them into her main content.

After months of both of us being in the google doldrums (due to other factors) I finally rose but she still languished - untill she deleted the copied content - within a week or so she was back to the no1 position.

I'm not including any copied content anywhere - never.

Marketing Guy

9:59 am on Apr 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I made 3 nice pages for my site and told a friend, who had a broadly similar site, to feel free to copy them and insert them into her main content.

After months of both of us being in the google doldrums (due to other factors) I finally rose but she still languished - untill she deleted the copied content - within a week or so she was back to the no1 position.

I'm not including any copied content anywhere - never.

Unless your articles were all the copy she had on her site, there should be no reason they will affect ranking. What happened to her site was most likely coincidence, with multiple factors converging around the same time she removed the content.

Copied content can't help your ranking or hurt it (unless, as I said, all of your site is copied). Each individual page is ranked on its own, so copied_page_1 won't stop unique_page_1 ranking for its targeted term.

Can google penalize my site for plcing same pages from other site?

No.

Those individual pages (probably) won't rank, even if the originals are number 1 for a specific page. I say probably, because in certain cases, the content will rank for certain terms (usually terms unique to that content).

You should decide to add the pages or not based purely on the benefits of adding the content to your site (for your users) and potentially the benefits of getting him to link to you in exchange.

One issue may be if he's been penalised or flagged as being a "bad neighbourhood", in which case you could potentially hurt yourself by linking to him. However, as long as you are linking to plenty of quality sites, and plenty of quality sites are linking to you, the risk is minimum.

sit2510

6:28 am on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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andreww

If you are worry, you may want to break the article into two or more pages. Your template page and navigation should be of your own and should contain your sufficient text and hyperlink of your own.

As Marketing Guy suggested, there is a risk that you may link to bad site. Unless you are certain that his site is good, you may want to use rel="nofollow" to linking him, i.e. giving reference for your site visitors but not SE. When you become familiar with him, then you can take rel="nofollow" out later. To be fair and square, you may want to tell him first with a time frame.

RonPK

7:52 am on Apr 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No worry, andreww. Think of the many sites that run the bible. Identical texts. Incoming links mostly from the same set of sites. Yet no penalty for duplicate content (AFAIK).