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Here's an idea that was recently proposed: Keep the main site lean and focused on subscription sales. From the main site we could post invisible (ie. transparent) image map links that would lead to significant content pages. The idea is that the googlebot would think that we have a lot of content on the site, but the normal visitor would never see it.
By the way, posting sample "teaser" articles doesn't work. We've tested this repeatedly and each time the visitor gets his "belly full" without subscribing. And why not? If you can get it for free why pay for it? We've also tried posting content that is partially obscured so the visitor can't read it. This has just pissed them off. Obviously, an argry visitor isn't what we want.
Anyway, what do you think about the invisible links idea? Would it work? Is there a downside?
Thanks for your feedback.
As many informations website are doing it, I would in your case put a little descriptive text of the article, or perhaps only the 400 first characters. This way, you would attract visitors without breaking any google guidelines (could do more dammage at the end)
Eventually, and perhaps currently on a spot checking basis, this will be done programmatically.
Their content is subscription based, so users can pay a subscription to see the articles. Usually a few articles are offered for free as a tempter. Sometimes the opening paragraph is offered free and users can subscribe to see the whole thing.
On each of the content pages, there is a script that only displays the full contents of each article to subscribers that are logged in (a cookie of some sort is the usual way of doing this).
If the user is not logged in then a message is displayed saying that the page is only avaliable for subscribers with links to the login page and the subscription page.
Now with this setting as it is, Google will see (and index) the non-subscribers version of the page. What you need to do is give Google a free pass. To do this, as well as the cookie detection, you also do an IP detection. If the IP address of the user is one that belongs to Google (lists of Google's IPs are available), then you treat the access as if it was a fully paged subscriber.
This way, Google will crawl and index all of the content and you will be ranked accordingly in the SERPs.
You also need to add the no-archive meta tag so that users can't access your content by looking at Google's cache.
You will not get penalised for this. Despite what some people would have you believe, as long as cloaking is not used to unfairly gain an advantage in the search engines, this kind of cloaking is fine. As long as the pages you're showing to Google are the same as what you are showing to your subscribers then you are in the clear as far as penalties are concerned. There are a number of subscription sites that do this with great success.
If you have any questions on how to do this then sticky me.
create pages for the entire articles, with links to these pages.
only show the full article if
a. logged in or
b. article is >6 weeks(or some other date) old.
Page names should stay the same so gt higher pr.
This is what most mags do.
It works.
IM me, I will send you some examples.
You will not get penalised for this. Despite what some people would have you believe, as long as cloaking is not used to unfairly gain an advantage in the search engines, this kind of cloaking is fine.
What you are suggesting *IS* using cloaking to unfairly gain an advantage.
It will get you better rankings, but not for long, as it annoys enough people like me that will complain to google about it. I rarely see these sorts of pages keeping their good rank for more than a month.
You will not get penalised for this. Despite what some people would have you believe, as long as cloaking is not used to unfairly gain an advantage in the search engines, this kind of cloaking is fine.
As a slight aside, does anybody know what weighting Google gives to image map links. I.e. are they equivalent to normal links?
You will not get penalised for this. Despite what some people would have you believe, as long as cloaking is not used to unfairly gain an advantage in the search engines, this kind of cloaking is fine.
What you are suggesting *IS* using cloaking to unfairly gain an advantage.
Not at all. As long as you are showing googlebot the exact same content that subscribers see then there is no problem.
Cloaking penalties are almost always manual penalties. It doesn't matter how many complaints Google get. When the Google rep checks the site manually, they will see that you're giving Google access to subscribed content and not trying to cheat the search engines.
If you were to create new content just for the search engines and not your users then you will be in trouble.
A lot of major newspapers use this technique. I don't see any getting downranked because of it.
A lot of major newspapers use this technique. I don't see any getting downranked because of it.
Really? Google allows them in Google News, but I just don't see subscription only articles in the SERPs.
Google's goal is to make the searchers happy with the results. Searchers are not happy when they click on a search result and get a subscription page. Therefore Google is not happy with the results.
Frequently, an abstract version (some sites let Google index both) will crop up higher if the keywords are in the abstract, but that's only because the keyword desity will be higher if there's less content.
I certainly don't see any penalties being applied.
I personally think you need to work on your teasers a bit more.Its quite posible to have teasers ranking for every kw you wish.I work in a teasing industry and it really is quite an art to make the lure compelling. But when it works, it really works.
Another alternative that I can think of is to give free access to your content and sell advertising.
So that means teaser text as others have said ... with good inbound links (and link text) to each teaser page, especially to the highest quality stuff. Then it's just like giving out free samples at the produce stand. Publishing just a few free articles in full could also do wonders. If you squeeze too hard on the money machine it breaks - but a bit of priming gets the flow going.
Here's what we've done so far: We've put a "photo" of the article on the page with a one-paragraph description below the photo. The resolution is such that visitors can see the article and read the headlines, but they can't read the text.
This approach has worked well for non-competitive keywords, but for the really tough keywords a single paragraph isn't getting it done.
Putting complete sample articles online is definately NOT going to happen because we've proven (repeatedly) that they read them, get their bellys full, and then click away.
Here's another idea that's been proposed: make it look like the article is finished, with a "home" link at the bottom. But below the home link (far below it) would be posted another link to real content. The user would have to scroll down past what he thought was the end of the page to get to that "hidden" link. What would be the downside of this approach?
Our SEO (I'm nice, not going to name them ;-) but one of the big five UK one) wanted me to do this less than 6 months ago. :D