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I'm not a lawyer, but I can possibly be a child molester, druggie and serial killer. If you say that in a blog, I doubt I could sue you. The suggestion is there though, it just not actionable (I think).
Who owns the contents of his blog?
Did Google pull it down temporarily or did they "ask" him to?
Did they sacrifice him to deter anyone else from blogging about the plex?
The guy was posting about his job, which should be perfectly acceptible in this society. Are we not allowed to discuss our jobs with our friends, families, and others? He never invited individuals to his blog from my understanding. I didn't see him running to forums begging people to read his anti-Google propoganda.
Google has made a huge PR push to not turn their public image into another Microsoft. This obviously was a negative and they needed to get rid of it. I wonder if Mark Jen was the guy who changed the blog, or Google themselves. Would be very interesting to know that.
I hear a lot of people saying that you can't disclose information about the company in your blogs, and he probably had signed a NDA prior to employment. My question is why are other Google bloggers who write positive things about Google and being employed there void of this NDA.
Was Mark Jen fired for disclosing information on the company, or for disclosing his personal feelings on his job? If it is the latter, Google should be ashamed of themselves.
Second of all, the guy's a bonehead for blogging about his new employer right out of the gate. I'll go one step further and say blogs are, imho, a pointless and egotistical exercise. When you talk to your friends at a barbecue, they care what you have to say. When you write a blog espousing those same views, you're just asking for trouble. At best, someone from work reads them, disagrees, and you're branded as a malcontent. What have you gained? The better part of valor is discretion when it comes to the workplace. This doesn't mean shut up and take it, it means consider your audience. And when you post it on the Internet, *everyone* is your audience.
My last point, and I haven't bothered to read any of his postings, but what are the timestamps? Was he posting at work? The company I work for recently disciplined an employee for blogging and closed access to blog sites for all computers in our domain. Was it what this employee said? While it was extremely inflammatory, that wasn't the cause for discipline. It was because the blogger was foolish enough to write LONG entries during work hours, *and* talk about doing it.
Free speech is a good thing, but it's everyone's responsibility to use free speech sensibly.
My two cents anyway. Regards, ZakDaddy
joined:Dec 29, 2003
It is free speech and the government can't censor it or retaliate because of it. Google on the other hand, can. You leave your free speech rights at the entrance door when you swipe the card...
p.s. I don't own any polka-dotted pants.
Google's not exactly a long term secure company... so there's better to be had.
I'd like to know why he left Microsoft, which he said was a great company to work for, as I imagine they are. Why would anyone move from MS to Google? (ignoring obvious answers).
He didnt tow the corporate line, it may seem petty to us how ever Google has spent a fortune on branding and image, one leak can turn into a flood.
Actually, his employer *was* MS . . . before he worked for Google.
OK, let's recap, if his employer *was* MS, and I know a lot of MSers that make some good coin, how did this nitwit go broke (as reported in this thread) coming to work for Google?
I don't feel bad for him at all getting fired after posting critical comments about his new company the first week on the job and flaunting the NDA (that I'm sure he signed) like it was written on 2-ply Charmin. I'd have booted him too. Hope his butt made sparks when it skidded across the parking lot. :)
Mark Jen needs to change the title of his blog now to:
"life @ google from the OUTSIDE looking in wishing I'd kept my fat mouth shut"
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:35 pm (utc) on Feb. 17, 2005]