click here [eurid.eu]
[Yep, the URL is just a tad long, I shortened it down a wee bit - Woz]
[edited by: Woz at 1:49 am (utc) on May 26, 2006]
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Why do some extensions like this get so much attention even when they cost so much? Why not just get a free .info domain name?Because .eu is a geographically relevant gTLD unlike .info. Though from recent work, .eu is more of a squatter and speculator's paradise than a serious gTLD like .com gTLD.
Regards...jmcc
The world's longest url?
That is soooo tacky!
23 words, 22 hyphens. Absolute genius. :)
Why not just get a free .info domain name?
That TLD is poisoned. ;)
Well it is actually a more relevant domain than .biz in Europe. Howver value and credibility wise, the .info domain is a backwater. There is a very strong risk that .eu will end up another backwater domain like .biz or .info. The huge Landrush 1 spurt of registrations is tailing off now. It still has a novelty factor but that missing business core is really hitting its credibility.Why not just get a free .info domain name?That TLD is poisoned. ;)
Regards...jmcc
The list of all the domain names that will be released on this date will be published on EURid website 2 weeks in advance, on May 24.
I've looked all over the Eurid site for this, has anyone found it?
Of course they have a holiday today!
Now they will not be publishing the list.
Regards...jmcc
What kind of insane CMS are they using that creates URLs like that? I'm mortified and... impressed.
some domain extensions have really taken off since their conception.Yeah but they are often well run tlds run by people who know what they are doing. From the start, it was quite evident that the people in Eurid were more suited to running small ccTLDs than a gTLD.
From looking at the 1.3 Million .eu domains identified here, it looks like a hell of a lot of speculation and warehousing has been going on.
Regards...jmcc
is a very strong risk that .eu will end up another backwater domain like .biz or .info
Just remember industry interests. 100% of the big industry players have based their core portfolio upon .com, 90% (or more) of major companies have based their online presence on .com and .com remains the de facto TLD of choice for business and enterprise.
If .co.uk cannot displace .com in its own back-yard, what hope is there for .eu - which has neither the long-established track record of .co.uk nor the attraction of having a national domain name.
Don't forget SEO demands that you are displayed in the index of your core country with Google. Great, let's get a .eu domain because that will help us with all the millions of searchers using google.eu. Let's give up the chance to have our own country, give up the chance to have a .com to pick .eu.
The only companies or individuals using .eu will be:
- Those people with a sense of belief or trust in the European Union who wish to display this publically despite the high risk of upsetting many potential customers in europe (I had previously argued for .eur or .europe - .eu basically refers to the European Union political movement, not europe itself)
- New companies with no preexisting rights to their name with which they can dispute whoever has their name .com or .cc tld, and whom do not mind their name existing for another site in the .com etc. space
- Sites with names ending in .eu who want a new-fangled domain after deli.cio.us
- Squatters and others who believe that a company will buy the .eu from them instead of disupting it
- Companies who obtain the domain name to avoid the hassle of a squatter registering it and having to go through the dispute process. Note this is not true use of the domain name as it is just redirected or may not even resolve.
I don't see the advantage of yet another TLD except the fact that if yourname.com is allready taken you could register yourname.eu instead.
[managingip.com...]
The panellist ruled that the acceptance of Traffic's application did not accord with Article 11 of the Regulation establishing .eu, which says that special characters should be eliminated entirely, replaced with hyphens or, if possible, rewritten.
If this were applied to all names registered with a Benelux part1&part2 trademark this could free up thousands of extra names.
Now they will not be publishing the list.
I saw that page however naively assumed that working at Brussels speed and them having Ascension Day holidays etc that they may just have been behind with ther "promises" or I had just missed it!
Has anyone found any name they wanted released now?
If this were applied to all names registered with a Benelux part1&part2 trademark this could free up thousands of extra names.If the Eurid smurfs had any honour, then the ruling could be applied to many of these dubious registrations since it is evidence of a pattern of bad faith registrations. (Bad pun. :) ) Many of the Sunrise registrations were granted to such iffy trademark holders. And as for the landrush registrations, the amount of sheer warehousing and squatting is staggering. Some warehousing operations are showing up with as many as 40K or more .eu registered.
Regards...jmcc
Some warehousing operations are showing up with as many as 40K or more .eu registered.
From where do you get this info or are you just going by the names for sale on various sites?
Some of the names I want seem to be squatted yet I can't find them for sale anywhere.
I've used cryptographic techniques to rebuild as much of the .eu zone as possible. At the latest count, 1315752 .eu domains have been confirmed. Adding in the domains from Sedo and Afternic would probably bump that figure up to around 1.5 Million.Some warehousing operations are showing up with as many as 40K or more .eu registered.From where do you get this info or are you just going by the names for sale on various sites?
Some of the names I want seem to be squatted yet I can't find them for sale anywhere.
There is a very clearly defined characteristic for some of the bogus registrars - they do not assign nameservers to the .eu domains they are squatting. The way to check the domain exists, in this case, is to use Eurid's whois or domain availability server (DAS). Effectively Eurid is collaborating with the bogus registrars and is part of the problem.
Regards...jmcc
There were those 'registrars' created just for the EU launch that were found out later and action was never taken against as well. They should have lost all the domains again, not been granted a refund, and them, their directors, shareholders, and customers should have been barred from ever registering .eu again.Ideally that should happen. But unfortunately, Eurid is run by a bunch of smurfs who seem to think that they've done no wrong. I'd go a bit further than that. I'd have .eu redelegated and the people in Eurid stripped of responsibility for the .eu gTLD for facilitating the fraud. The "just following orders" defence that Eurid has been using when questioned does not cut it with many hosters and domain owners in Europe who've seen their .eu domain squatted by these bogus registrars.
Though Eurid seems to have been made to accept the magnitude of the problem it facilitated. There is now a fast track procedure that can be used to dispute a registration where there is clear evidence that the registrant's data was bogus or the registrant was not entitled to register the domain.
Regards...jmcc
Extension Monitor (dutch)
If I am reading this correctly then:
For .COM 50.518.771 names 685 registrars which is about 73750 per registrar
and
For .EU 1.822.683 names 1566 registrars which is about 1163 per registrar
Meaning there are 881 more registrars for .EU than .COM in total
Incredible!
Would many of the .EU registrars be in The Netherlands?
.NL 1.924.767 names 2026 registrars which is about 950 per registrar
1,341 more .NL registrars than .COM?
Tell me I am reading these figures correctly.
For .EU 1.822.683 names 1566 registrars which is about 1163 per registrarYes. it would seem that Eurid's incompetence in not having any real, verifiable standards for registrars means that this flaw has been well and truy exploited.Meaning there are 881 more registrars for .EU than .COM in total
The problem with the domains:registrars figure is that it is a linear (number of domains/ number of registrars) figure. Reality is never that perfect. Unless the other ccTLD registries publish domains:registrars figures, the only rule of thumb that works in a mature market is that 80% of the market is held by 20% of the registrars.
Eurid's figures are untrustworthy because they are not open to proper examination. And it would probably not be in Eurid's interests to publish the domains:registrars figure because it would provide evidence of how the system was exploited by these bogus registrars.
Regards...jmcc
being vulgar, the only thing I could think of straight up was
f***.eu
but the e spoils it a bit,
mili.eu
works a little better, so has no doubt been taken...
ohhhh.eu
Regards...jmcc
.EU takes too much attention,the same as .BIZ .INFO and others and who is now discussing them?Well this forum has been a bit on the dead side recently. But there is life outside of the US. It is being discussed on some domainer bbses as well. There was some interest in the Landrush 2 but as everyone expected the corrupt registrars scheme meant that EU citizens got ripped off once again thanks to the incompetents in Eurid. Pool is holding an auction of domains they snagged during LR2 even though this seems to be against the rules.
Almost no one
Regards...jmcc
