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Are there such things as new (e.g. virgin) IPs without a history?
If you are being offered retreaded IPs, how do you research them for possible past history? (I'm aware of mail spam databases but am more concerned about previous SE penalties.)
I think - i have no evidence to back this up - that a sleeping period for the IP would reduce or partially eliminate problems. Partially only, as some webmasters seem to ban around the clock and never get those bans lifted.
Search engines, otoh, have a more vital interest in lifting bans that are no longer necessary. New clean sites may rise on that IP that was previously used for something else.
/claus
the first step would be asking the hosting company i guess
Yes, I was heading in this direction, but, OTOH, they are hardly likely to tell you that it was used by an offshore pills network that they had to get rid of...
Something like a wayback machine for IPs?
I don't think there are any real issues with using a recycled IP. It happens all the time. The only minor problem is that you might initially get traffic intended for the previous users of the IP, but that should never be for more than a few days. This is due to the way the domain name servers cache results.
René.
I dont think it exists. Would be nice though - it gets even more relevant as time goes by.
/claus
No way to investigate SE penalties without contacting the previous owner, I would think. You could always try that.
If you're big enough, you could get new space allocated to you from ARIN, but we're talking service-provider size at that point.
As far as any SE stuff goes, I realise you can't tell now, but I'd be happier knowing who the former owner was and having a sniff around their present IP.
seindal, see various discussions about inktomi and other older search engines here, as well as the debates about separate IPs for domains. Some people are convinced it happens/happened.
Yeah, we were offered a couple that were on a spam list so that's what started ringing alarm bells...
seindal, see various discussions about inktomi and other older search engines here, as well as the debates about separate IPs for domains. Some people are convinced it happens/happened.
It would risk hitting thousands of innocent sites
Or guilty... ;-)
Email server operators have taken to doing this (they did not do this outright). No reason to think that search engines couldn't go down this path, although I'm not convinced that they will.
I thought that ARIN was working on keeping a history of allocations with their SWIP (IP adresss allocation) tools. I'm not sure of recent progress. And that would only help North America, and the other regions served by ARIN.
The lowest level of authority is not obliged in any way to communicate their choice to anybody
Not true. Providers are required to SWIP /29 (8 IP address) blocks or bigger. They don't always do this, but they certainly are obliged to do so per ARIN's guidelines. Most providers are pretty good about this, but some aren't.
Anything /30 (4 IP addresses) or smaller are /generally/ not used for hosting. If ARIN developed the history, we'd have a mostly accurate way to check previous ownership.
