stealth forwarding of registered domain name

question

[Sandy]

Hi. Air answered my question a while ago but I asked another and no one has since answered me. I own my own domain name and want to be able to use that for both my email address and site url but other than those sites who do stealth forwarding for a cost, I would like to know how, or even if, my isp can set this up for me. Mine have said they will but no one seems to know how and no one seems interested in telling me how. Is what I'm asking illegal or anything or what's the situation with this? All I need to know is what to tell my isp so they can set this up for me but, whenever I mention it or ask, everyone goes quiet. I'm new to this side of things - I really have NO idea so, if someone can help, I'd really appreciate it. All I want is to be able to legally use my domain name via my isp but how? Thanks. Sandy.

[Air]

Hi Sandy, I moved your post to this forum. It will get more attention than in the Cloaking forum.

[dhdweb]

If I understand the problem correctly, you registared you domain name with company "A" and you site is hosted on company "B".

If this is the case, you will need to transfer the registar to company "B". Company "B" (your isp) should know how to do this.

I once got stuck in this same kind of mess when I purchased a domain from Verisign (Network Solutions). Long story short, I ended up purchasing a new domain (for less money) through my ISP.

Strangely enough, this worked out better for me because I liked the new name better .... lol

Also check with company "A" and see if you can alter the DNS settings as opposed to IP forwarding, If they allow this, your ISP can give you the info you need.

dhdweb

[Sandy]

Just wanted to thank Air for moving my question and answering me and to the person who did answer me, thank you also. My problem is, with your reply, in this department, my isp is useless. They are run by a group of techies in a city three hours away from where they actually are and the techies know less than I do :-) Is there anyway you can walk me through this step by step - painful as I know that is. Write to me off list if you need to - whatever it takes to get me sorted out - this has been going on for six months! Thanks again. Sandy.

[Slade]

Can you put the domain name you've bought into your profile here, so we can take a peek?

Are you asking can you have your domain come to your PC at your home/work? Or, are you asking can you make the domain 'live' at the ISP you use for your Internet connection?(If you're worried about the tech level of the people at your ISP, I'd say don't do that!)

You've already paid the $35/yr(if with Verisign) or less(dotster, 15.99, etc) to 'buy' your domain name, right? Do you have any other charges associated with it yet?

[Sandy]

To Slade.

I'm more than happy to share the name publicly since I have stealth forwarding to the site and am using it there now - I want to change that to get my isp to call my site and email address by the domain name. The name is namethatmovie.net

I also live in Australia and bought the name for two years last January at one of our bigger places here that specialise in buying and selling the names and yes, it's all legal - I checked first. They use mydomain.com for forwarding, stealth or otherwise so I set it up there for them to do the job. They currently are the ones doing the site stealth forwarding but because I have a newsletter that involves bulk sending twice a week, legal as it is, mydomain.com got upset at that and decided to block me whenever I tried to send the newsletter and added notices all over their site that no bulk emailling is allowed - after I'd organised it and had it all working nicely as I wanted.

Having cancelled the email side of the forwarding, they were swamped with mail last week by someone and it was then that I discovered that they are still controlling email to me - even though I don't use that side of their service and haven't for the past six months and I don't even advertise the old address with the domain in it. I use namethatmove@(my isp's name) because it's all I have so people can contact me. Hope all that makes sense.

The isp said when I joined them that they can do site and email aliasing but the guy who runs the show who is local to me, doesn't know how to and when he approached his tech staff who are three hours away, they replied with "why are we even bothering to look into this". The guy running the show, yet again replied with "leave this with me and I'll see what I can do" but I've been hearing this for six months and, as you can see, I'm getting fed up with waiting for what seems to be something anyone else can do - except me :-)

Sandy. (Sorry for the long reply everyone).

[Mardi_Gras]

Sandy - Is there a particular reason you want your ISP to host your site and e-mail? There would be no benefit to you that I can imagine, and given their responses to your inquiries so far, they don't seem like the sort of people you want to trust a domain to.

Your e-mail and hosting can be easily handled by any web hosting company, and there does not need to be any business link between the people who connect you to the Internet and the people who host your site and e-mail. For example, right now I am conencted to the Internet via a cable provider but I am checking e-mail from three different domains - each on a different host and none related to my cable ISP.

I'm not really clear on what you are trying to do, so if this is all old hat to you (I hope that translates to Australian English), I apologize.

[web_india]

I agree with Mardi_Gras. If you have the domain name password with you, you should leave your current host and move on to someone different considering they haven't been able to help you out in 6 months. There are several who may provide you the services you want for a very low fee.

If you still want to continue with your current ISP, you'll have to tell them to do modifications in CNAME and MX records, I suppose. Someone else here could confirm that.

[Air]

For reference This Discussion [webmasterworld.com] provides some background to the question. It might help avoid covering similar ground.

[Sandy]

Thanks to everyone who's answered me. I don't have to go through my isp but they offered it as part of the service and, for uniformity, I thought I'd keep things with them. I have my newsletter which already costs me a lot in time etc and I enjoy doing that but I don't want to have to pay if I can help it. The other thing is, when it does come to paying, being over here makes paying for anyone outside my country to do it almost a non-option. By the time you transfer fees and currency rates, a couple of dollars for an American, becomes fifty or more for me so, unless I can get a paying advertiser who's fees I can put back into things like this, free and/or local is how I was trying to work for now. To Air - thanks. I'll go have a look at that section you sent.

[Sandy]

As a footnote regarding changing my isp - I did change six months ago to this one - the first one didn't even offer the service. I have a choice of two isp's in my area. Other than that and I pay long distance call rates just to connect to the internet.

[Mardi_Gras]

Sandy - Your current provider claims to do hosting but seems unable or unwilling to provide it. I understand that finding an ISP in your area may be difficult, but web hosts are easy to find. Given that, I would leave my access as is and search for a web/e-mail host. A quick MSN search for "web hosting in Australia" turned up more results than I would care to look through.

[Sandy]

Mardi Gras. Thanks for your answer - my isp also claims to be able to set up aliasing using domain names or any name I choose so....I will do that search, though - it isn't something I even thought to do. The domain registrars have also come through, asking for my user name and password and telling me they can set it up from there, which I've given them, rightly or wrongly, and am waiting for their reply as well. Fingers crossed and wish me luck <grin>. I'll let you know what happens with that line.

[Sandy]

Mardi Gras sent me a sticky note but I don't know how to pick it up so I haven't been able to read it - help :-) Sandy.

[Slade]

At the top of a logged in page, choose control panel, then click on stickymail!

[Sandy]

Thanks Slade - I did find it myself and, rather than clog this section up, I did answer Mardi Gras back off list. I should have let everyone else know but I do have good news anyway. You won't believe it but my site has been fixed. I haven't checked email yet but I went to the domain registrar's site and the settings are still set as for my isp so - it seems I had a win and got what I wanted. If that's the case, I would like to thank everyone here for all your help and suggestions and to Air, if you're reading, thank you especially. Sandy.

[Sandy]

Just a quick update for everyone who's been helping me, or trying to, recently, with my domain name set-up. The domain registrars used a new person to help me since the first person wasn't a lot of help. The new person has been fantastic, even to calling my isp for me, and getting everything set up, walking them through via telephone. So, what that means is that we are all set up and ready to go and I've been using the email address so far today and everything works ha ha. If anyone wants to check, the url is removed and the email is also removed but IT WORKS - yay. Happy days - this has been going on since last January. Thanks again to everyone for even trying. Sandy.

[edited by: DaveAtIFG at 4:57 pm (utc) on Sep. 7, 2002]
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