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Publishers sue Gator over pop-ups

...The Washington Post, The New York Times, Dow Jones and seven others

         

skibum

8:33 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Story [news.com.com]

"The companies are seeking a short-term preliminary injunction against Gator, preventing it from delivering ads keyed to their sites. It is also seeking a permanent injunction against the company and monetary damages for any advertising dollars made from their Web pages."

Should be an interesting case, personally I hope they [publishers] win.

[edited by: rcjordan at 9:46 pm (utc) on June 27, 2002]

richlowe

9:32 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gator and similar companies are scum-sucking bottom feeders, scum so vile that pond scum will have nothing to do with them. They are pathetically evil and deserve only ridicule and failure.

Richard Lowe

buckworks

9:41 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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And that's the polite version of what a lot of people think!

msr986

9:43 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The story is coming up 404 for me.

Hey Richard, you seem to have the ability to make your opinion extremely clear....

:)

Knowles

9:46 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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[news.com.com...]

Thats why use this one:

[news.com.com...]

rcjordan

9:47 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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404 fixed

Knowles

9:52 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks rc you can delete my post now if you like.

idiotgirl

11:17 pm on Jun 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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When and where do the beatings start? Can I be there? Can I, can I please?

cheater copperpot

4:28 am on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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these guys are evil.. I just sigh every time i go over to a newb friends house and see that little gator running in the taskbar..

mack

5:08 am on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I would never have a Gator like think on my system... Imagine being hacked, gator knows it all and im sure a good hacker would know how to make it talk.

Lisa

6:17 am on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gator is evil! Even sounds evil (A creator with teeth that kills).

A program that sucks up your passwords, spies on you, steals from other affiliates, hijacks banner ad real estate, and launches pop-ups ads at you when you visit a site telling of deals on other sites. Scumware sounds to good for this software.

Quadrille

10:17 am on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sounds to me like they're succeeding where most pop-up merchants fail ;)

So do you <I>really</I> dislike them, or do I detect a spot of jealousy?

[Note for the record I loathe them and *all* pop up merchants - the Cancer of the Internet, almost literally]

diddlydazz

11:25 am on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hopefully they don't stop until they (Gator) are bankrupt !

The number of people who have had problems with that piece of scum (nice word chosen at last minute) software and the residue it leaves behind AFTER uninstalling makes it one of the worst offenders in the "not to be downloaded" section.

The internet would be a better place without low life scum companies like Gator

All in my Opinion of course ;)

Dazz

digitalghost

4:15 pm on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gator's Response: [internetnews.com...]

I think Gator would be less offensive if they made it easier to delete the offending files from an infected system. Many people that have Gator installed didn't want it, they just didn't read the installation options of whatever scumware they were installing. Or they clicked the wrong button on that pop-up ad. An application that removes Gator from a system would probably go over quite well...

DG

skibum

6:12 pm on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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""One of the largest plaintiffs actually hired Gator to deliver the majority of the handful of ads displayed to consumers viewing the plaintiffs' Web sites over the past several quarters," he said."

OOPS! Publishers will use the technology to hijack each others sites, but when it comes back around to bite them, its time to sue?

......" "This flies in the face of the very nature of the Windows operating system, and is ridiculous," he said."

.........anybody should be allowed to hijack the functions of your computer?

tedster

6:23 pm on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gator has been selling such advertising for more than a year and has accumulated several top-tier advertisers including Target.com

Sounds like someone made a bad decision.

rogerd

6:28 pm on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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An application that removes Gator from a system would probably go over quite well...

Adaware removes Gator, Ezula, and other infestations...

digitalghost

6:30 pm on Jun 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ad-Aware does a terrible job, and leaves components behind. I deleted the files manually, and then only after changing the name of the folder they resided in. Gator, being the aware company that they are, circumvented the automated removal by Ad-Aware.

DG

mysterynme

11:42 pm on Jul 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Aawwwwwww leave 'em alone.

Gator and the like provide a cost-effective way to advertise on sites who are otherwise completely unreasonable to negotiate with. It's ridiculous to expect an advertiser to plunk down $5000 - $10,000 on a CPM test campaign just to get a few banners run and test the water.

It's the arrogance of some of the larger publishers that makes this service so attractive to advertisers. If these publishers would work WITH advertisers instead of expecting the advertiser to carry the full burden of risk, perhaps the Gators of the world wouldn't have such an attractive offering.

Personally, I'd much rather work directly with the publisher. But when the publisher thumbs their nose at me with a condescending air of superiority, you bet I'll promote my product to their audience through Gator.

I do however, think the publisher should get a royalty on the sale.

Fair is fair.

ggrot

12:14 am on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Skibum, if my memory serves, you can actually pay gator not to put competitor's ads on your site. This may be what was happening. I don't know. It's the old mafia protection payments, and its nasty.

seth_wilde

10:41 pm on Jul 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The judge granted the injuction against Gator!!

[news.com.com...]