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Amer for 3 years still at $0 a day

         

dkin

8:40 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I guess the name says it all, what am I doing wrong, I have had many websites, currently I have a gaming website, it has 300 pages in yahoo and 500 pages in google, I am still not getting many visitors, although it is new.

But I do not know what Im doing wrong, advice from anyone would help.

frup

8:55 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I find this terminology very strange. "Affiliate marketer". Are you a webmaster? If you're a webmaster, do you make a website that has value, is of interest to people? Does it offer information or entertainment not found on other sites? Is it unique and special in some way? 10 useful, special, interesting pages are much better than 500 pages of junk...

First be a webmaster, and then you can be an "affiliate marketer". But the webmaster part comes first.

dkin

3:40 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am a webmaster first and have been since I was 16, I have been in am for the last few years, mainly reading, but nothing works for me, Ive had a site with 500 000 page views (not unique) a month and only made about $5 a month from it, I just dont know what to do anymore.

frup

4:04 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So you're a webmaster who has trouble monetizing his traffic. I'd look at it that way. Not that you are a failed affiliate marketer.

It could be you're just in a bad niche and need to build sites on other topics. Or it could be you need to look at different ways to monetize traffic, advertising or adsense-type links or selling subscriptions or whatever you can dream up.

dkin

7:09 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have tried adsense, subscriptions cj, linkshare, amazon etc and I cant do any of it.

ska_demon

7:53 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have tried adsense, subscriptions cj, linkshare, amazon etc and I cant do any of it.

Frustrating isn't it!

The key is to take a look at why any visitors have come to your site. If they arrived from an SE what were the search terms? If they got to your site for a term like 'game cheats' or something they are obviously not looking to buy anything. You need to TARGET your aff progs at the visitors. Find out why they come and give them what they are looking for.

I have had many 'failed' (made no money)affiliate websites that were still successful in their own right. If you hook up the 'visitors only' site to another site that is fully loaded for sales you can start turning the 'read only visitors' into buying customers.

Ska

dkin

9:05 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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will try to remember that, thank you, any other great advice?

ska_demon

10:43 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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will try to remember that, thank you, any other great advice?

<LOOP>Build It, Promote it, Forget it</LOOP>

TrustNo1

4:22 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Forget it is bad advice. Where i think you can make a little money is looking ahead and have something for upcoming games or game systems. If they're coming to your site for game cheats, they already have the game and not looking to buy. But they do buy new games and most likely will buy a new system when it comes out. Get the cookie on their computer and when the new game or system comes out and they buy, you get paid.

ska_demon

4:52 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Forget it is bad advice.

Ok, forget it is bad advice. What I am trying to say is that once you have a formula for profit it's time to move on and put what you have learnt into a different niche.

I personally build sites that should, in theory, be able to run themselves. Once I have a site that levels out with reasonable turnover it is time to forget it and move on to the next. Obviously I do need to check occasionally but why work continuously on 1 site that could get busted next update when you can work on 1 site at a time whilst earning from the others.

It's the old Rinse and Repeat addage.

Ska

TrustNo1

5:01 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I guess it depends what types of sites you make. Some make set it and forget it, usually SE dependent type affiliate sites, some make sites that you work on everyday and constant promoting is good. Whatever works for you.

frup

5:07 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Of course, whatever works for you. But I think if you are looking for a long-term successful strategy, building good quality sites that you continue updating over time is a better long-term strategy than just doing one after another build-and-forget-it sites.

Search engines change and there is always risk, but if you build a quality site that organically generates inbound links, you have a pretty good shot at keeping a decent search engine ranking for the long term. And that means profits for the long term.

Small sites, mini-sites, sites you build in 2 hours all have their purpose. But someone looking to get into this business should think about what kind of unique, useful websites they can build that really have staying power.

ska_demon

7:56 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Small sites, mini-sites, sites you build in 2 hours all have their purpose. But someone looking to get into this business should think about what kind of unique, useful websites they can build that really have staying power.

You are so right ;oP

I think to be a successful affiliate these days you either have to have a good financial backing or think so far out of the box you are in the next country.

I have 10 mini sites alongside my main projects. All less than 10 pages and all make £10 per day, everyday. Ok, so it's not amazing but it tops up my day job. None of those sites took more than 5 hours to build and I did no promotion. No submitting to SE's, no looking for links, no PPC, just a bit of simple SEO and away they go.

These sites are built on a subject that should never change so I don't need to be constantly updating them. I think these sites have their place just as much as the bigger sites that need daily maintenance.

If a site provides exactly what the user is looking for then it is a 'good' site. No matter what size it may be. If you can monetise it, BONUS!

Ska

dkin

8:02 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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what do you use to make money from that site, adsense sell products? what?

and Im a lil rough around the edges when it comes to optimizing.

ska_demon

9:54 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I do whatever it takes to make money from the sites. Some might do well with adsense. Others might do well selling a book or two on the subject. Some might do well providing leads for a service or something and others profit purely by impressions alone.

Vague? Damn right I am ;oP

It is not quite as easy as it sounds but in principle it's very simple.

For example, build a tiny site about one specific thing. Write something unique about that thing and squeeze a few aff links in here and there.

The important thing with SEO is don't overdo it.

On my small sites my SEO is limited to a good title containing the primary keyword, a good, succinct description, again with primary keyword and a very short list of very targetted keywords.

Upload, ignore and find something else stupid to write about.

Ska

That's it.