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Is it worth the time and effort to deal with one of these?
Thank you for your time,
[edited by: oilman at 9:26 pm (utc) on Nov. 11, 2004]
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Plus I have many other sites and can through banners on.
Anyway, I heard about commission junction. I am slightly confused, can I use them to have other people sell my products as well? Someone emailed me asking if I had any affiliate programs for one of my sites. This is why I starting researching this topic. I just dont want to invest time and money (especially money) if it is not worth it.
I've worked with Commission Junction, LinkShare and Performics during the past several years. Performics stands out as the best, most upscale and reputable of the bunch, but they only accept companies that do several million dollars per year. This may be out of your reach.
Even though they're big, CJ seems to be much more of the mom-and-pop variety, with affiliates spanning the gamut from low-end, cheesy sites all the way up to the mega brands. In my experience, CJ is the least expensive and tangible of the bunch, but their customer service is very poor.
LinkShare is another biggie, but the barrier to entry is substantial. Last time I checked, they required a commitment of over $20K per year, with no guaranteed performace. I wouldn't go there unless you're out of options.
I hope that helps.
[edited by: eljefe3 at 6:29 am (utc) on Nov. 13, 2004]
Is it worth it to become a reseller?
I saw a lot of people in other forums argueing about which is better, adsense or affiliate programs. I guess it depends on a lot of things (like your market) to see which one is better for you. My site is so general that I figured I could choose a variety of products to sell. I have many other sites that are more specific to a certain market.
Thanks for your time,
I recently tried Clickbank for several ebooks which are already being sold by affiliates via adsense on my site (and have been for months, so I assume they're making money). After several weeks on high traffic pages, not a single reported sale (they don't provide any other stats).
I tried linkshare for several other products which are well targetted to the audience of the site and also advertised on Adsense. Seemed to undercount impressions. Despite reasonable clickthru's (about half the percentage I get on Adsense), not a single reported sale.
Tried reporting.net. This one has high quality advertisers and the best stats (actually makes it possible to see daily impression count fairly easily). One product gets a 25% clickthru (so seems on target), but again no sales.
Another has had a few free trials started, if they 100% turn into sales it might just make something like $0.50 CPM. Barely worth the space, but I'll leave this one running a bit longer to see.
I've tried Amazon in the past, and Commission Junction, with similar (lack of) results. Much longer ago when payments were better I did make a little bit of money, but collecting it was not always easy. Took over six months and many letters, faxes and calls to get paid once.
Affiliate marketing obviously works for thousands of people, but just doesn't seem to work for me, on the exact same pages where Adsense ads by affiliates work.
I was also very surprised by the abysmal quality of the stats provided - almost as though they don't want you to work out how bad it's doing.
I bet Ill be one of the people that cant get this type of thing to work unlike so many others. I guess I'll try it and find out. Maybe Ill get lucky, I have nothing to lose but a little bit of time.
If you were to choose one affilate program, which would you choose?
Maybe Ill get lucky, I have nothing to lose but a little bit of time.
That's the bit that always gets me. I'm a sucker for "it's only ten minutes work to add the links, what can I lose?". Time that I could be spending making more and better sites, that's what...
You'd think I'd learn, but I got suckered into this again recently, with one of major hotel booking affiliate schemes (some of my sites have a travel angle). They provide a nice downloadable comma-delim file of tens of thousands of hotels, so I wrote a quick script to generate SEO'd pages for countries, cities etc.
And then wondered why the results were silly - dozens of the hotels in the file were classified with the wrong country code (putting some Austrian towns in American Samoa, for example), city names not standardised, and even "find near" searches won't work as some hotels have reversed lat/long, many are out by over 100 miles and so on. Their countries file even puts Liberia in the "middle east" :-)
Another few hours wasted on the the careless assumption that a company providing a widely-used affiliate scheme is providing something usable. And again they don't provide any tracking of clicks or booking searches, basically hiding information that would allow easy calculations of performance.
Yes I have received a little money from Amazon, and made a lot of money from a pay-per-click affiliate scheme late last century, but in general they're a complete washout. The Adsense ads just sit there making money, but I'm really trying hard to diverisfy them, waste of time really.