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Move CJ account to overseas?

         

signup1

12:12 pm on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have been able to move affiliate accounts to overseas except CJ and Adsense. I can open a new adsenes easily. But in CJ's case. Many advertisers do not accept publisher less than 1 year old. Many don't accept publishers from overseas, such as credit card, DSL.

I want to move to overseas because I set up an address in US purely for opening a CJ account. I used foreign address to apply but got denied.

After several months. My checks got pretty big. So I worry about my tax now. Since I am 100% out of USA, but I applied for a EIN in USA and used it for CJ account.

The best solution is that I keep US account, but pay no tax, such as filling "IRS Form W-8 BEN".

The second best solution is that I change my address to overseas without CLOSING CJ account.

The worst will be CJ asks me to reapply and open another account again.

iProgram

1:43 pm on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Since I am 100% out of USA, but I applied for a EIN in USA and used it for CJ account.

Do you mean you incorporated in US from abroad and got your own EIN? If this is true, you are still a US person, even if you are nonresident alien.
The best solution is that I keep US account, but pay no tax, such as filling "IRS Form W-8 BEN".

Since you already provided them your EIN, you will need to file tax return even if there is no earning.

signup1

6:32 pm on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I got EIN as a solo person. I don't have a registered business nor corp in USA. All my business is foreign to where I will report tax to. So Except CJ, I am 100% tax free man. My big business use this trick to pay no tax. I have NO income from the country where I live or where from where I conduct my business. It is not difficult to set up. If you are interested, I may help you save on tax. My problem now is I have to change my status on CJ to foreign without hurting my approval rating. It takes several months to build a 5 green bar business on CJ. I don't want to start from fresh again.

signup1

6:33 pm on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry. typo. It is not my big business. It is Many big business.

iProgram

8:42 am on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"I got EIN as a solo person" I can't understand this. Can you get an EIN without a business entity (e.g. partnership or solo proprietorship)? And when you applied your EIN?

So you current CJ account is a US address, and you've already sent them your W-9 form to confim your EIN right?

signup1

11:13 am on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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my EIN is as solo proprietorship
they don't really check W-9.
i did not lie on my application.
i indeed has an address in usa for a short while. my EIN is real.

on another application, my EIN was wrong, I put 5678, instead of 5768. they found the mistake after verifying with IRS each month -- every time they pay me, they check tax id.

iProgram

1:24 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"on another application?"
You have more than one account with CJ? And more than one EIN?

I signed up with LS using my personal info and consider opening an account with CJ using my US company. But I got lost with the complicated federal TAX info. I don't know which form should I FAX to CJ if I signup an account using my US address and EIN. I also don't know how should I file tax return....

signup1

2:59 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My bad. I meant my other application with other networks. Other netwoks allow switch to none US status automatically, by changing address.

The best way to do is:
1 build a super good site
2 apply as us business
3 once you are in, chang address to overseas

But this does not work with CJ or adsense.

iProgram

3:15 am on Oct 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You CJ account is now a US address with your EIN on record. Did you ever file tax return? As far as I know, even if you are from abroad, you will still need to send them some form each year because IRS has already got your EIN.

signup1

4:36 am on Oct 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes, you are right about it. i should file us income tax if any income is reported on my ein. but i will pay no income tax, simply using 1040nr with zero days in usa.

iProgram

6:23 am on Oct 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you know if I am a LLC and open an US account in CJ, how much tax should I pay them? Which tax form should I use to report tax? My LLC is a single-non-US-member, partnership.
And do you have a US bank account (business or personal?) to cash your earning?

signup1

12:03 pm on Oct 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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you should ask tax professionals. i only know how to set up the tax free operation. if you are a partnership, you can use 1040nr too. that is an easy form. it really does not matter, as all you need to do is to report 1 dollar income regardless if you are in usa or not. shift profit to 100% foreign so your us books has nothing.

even if you are in us, affiliate incomes are VERY EASY to become tax free. have you heard Lucent pay any income tax in the last 3 years? make sure to make your operation losing money. when i reported us income business, i alwasy make the whole year income 1 dollar. you need to make money for 3 years for every 5 years to take huge income loss in ther two years.
you can make +1 +1 +1 -100K -100K, still not does raise IRS red flag. if you make +100 -1 -1 -1 +100, the flag will be up.

if you are non us, IRS does not care about you at all. they will never personally check your report at all. it is always best not to be targeted.