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But I don't think the software will take off. I think the search engines are moving towards making a definate seperation between info sites and biz sites. The ads may eventually be the only way biz sites can get their sites on a search page. Too many people shop on the web for this to take off.
That would make an interesting hybrid product; ad replacement.
No that is not what they doing, you need to go to the product page.
I would expect someone else to do a search replacement thing. It even has some saleable benefits.."they show 8 ads, we only show 4".blah..blah..Then they could offer the software for free and make money from ad sales.
I'm almost positive that's what they're doing. In other words, they're saying "Don't click on THEIR ads... click on OURS instead"
Wrong. Adsubtract pro is the paid version. No ads.
There should be free programs popping up soon, it sounds like something the open source community would embrace.
Wrong. Adsubtract pro is the paid version. No ads.
I still wouldn't trust it for the life of me.
[edited by: richlowe at 8:20 pm (utc) on Dec. 11, 2003]
Advertising the the scourge of the internet.
Wrong. The scourge of the internet is people trying to make a quick/easy buck by ripping other people off.
Wrong. The scourge of the internet is people trying to make a quick/easy buck by ripping other people off.
Wrong. It's advertising. The scourge of advertising has changed the internet from a friendly and open community to a cutthroat, back-stabbing door into hell where good sites with quality information are the exception and the norm is slimy adult trash run by people with no ethics of any kind (notice how they scream loudest about their ethics and rights), "money-making" garbage like Don Lapre and other such claptrap. Email is quickly becoming worthless and search engines have to come up with incredibly silly algorithms and stupid rules in order to "maintain ethics" on their listings so they are even marginally useful.
Commercialism was perhaps inevitable but it's become so pervasive and so intrusive that I, a person who practically lives on the internet, wonder why we ever thought this web-thing was a good idea...
Or perhaps I'm just "in a foul mood" today? Sigh.
Nothing makes it out of University circles unless it makes money somehow. (That's why so many liberal students become stuanch republicans later on)
Yes, there are bad advertisers/affiliates but that doesn't make advertising bad. How many information sites do you think there would be if people couldn't pay for their time and hosting costs somehow?
So many here are quick to yell "spammer" at webmasters, take a look at the search engine results..who's spamming who?
The scourge of advertising has changed the internet from a friendly and open community to a cutthroat, back-stabbing door into hell
Open-source people are funny.
Open-source people are funny.
Especially the ones that take open source code, alter it, make it closed source, and sell it. Gotta love it.
I know a lot of people that use ad subtrac
refer back to the "used by techies" quote earlier.
I know alot of people who use adware removers too. Only it's after I tell them what's wrong with their computer. My uncle refused to even believe that it was adware that was screwing with his computer (it kept trying to turn the internet on without anybody turing it on. Seen it plenty of times in adware) My brother who is a freaking programmer accidentally put an adware program on my computer that was so bad that when I went to remove it, it disabled my internet connection completly and I had to reinstall everything to fix it.
If the everyday normal person doesn't have a clue about adware, why would they figure out that not all the SERPs are unpaid AND that there is a program to eliminate them.
Do you honestly think that it would have made it beyond the University stage if it hadn't had been for people's ability to make money?
As more and more businesses jumped on board they drove prices through the floor making it very affordable for the average person to have internet connection in his own home and run his own sites. If they had not done that, IMO its use by the average person would not be as wide spread in the home as it is today. Net use though was far outside the university stage from its very beginnings before it ever became commercialized. Granted it was nothing like it is today.
Anyway, IMO commercialism of the net really isn't the problem. It's the gnats who come out when there's money opportunities who purposely try to spoil things. These are the types who want to turn a quick buck for themselves no matter who they rip off and hurt in the process. They ruined pop-ups as an advertising vehicle, flood our inboxes with email spam, and clog search results with spammy pages. They make it bad for regular businesses by making people end up hating what are initially pretty good marketing vehicles.
Open-source people are funny.
Actually, not an "open source person". My shop, which I manage for a company with $3.5Billion/year revenue, is totally microsoft. I have had to make numerous choices regarding software, and when push came to shove, MS won out every time. Open source has it's place, for it's not for a real business. Sorry to step on any toes, but that's what we've found after countless hours of testing and examination of ROI and such.
I personally manage a staff which handles over 1,000 windows servers, plus desktops, laptops and handhelds. It all works almost flawlessly.
Actually, not an "open source person".
You sounded fairly pro-open source when you said
The scourge of advertising has changed the internet from a friendly and open community to a cutthroat, back-stabbing door into hell where good sites with quality information are the exception and the norm is slimy adult trash run by people with no ethics of any kind (notice how they scream loudest about their ethics and rights), "money-making" garbage like Don Lapre and other such claptrap.
Hrrrm...
My shop, which I manage for a company with $3.5Billion/year revenue,
Yeah... we ALL manage billion dollar companies. (I say this as I'm sipping $3,000 wine while typing on my porcelain keyboard)
I personally manage a staff which handles over 1,000 windows servers, plus desktops, laptops and handhelds. It all works almost flawlessly.
What a busy man you must be, not only managing your 3.5 billion dollar company, but you also handle IT for 1,000+ computers.
