Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 18.104.22.168
Forum Moderators: bakedjake
Which one provides you the most traffic?
I get the most from Gigablast (via IxQuick), closely followed by SearchHippo.
Vivisimo will send the occassional visitor, and Excite does provide a decent number of referrals -> but those are via Google, so perhaps we shouldn't include it :) As does DogPile, Mamma, and MyWay - but all Google related.
WiseNut has sent me 1 or 2 visitors in the last 6 months, since I started doing closer analysis across all the sites I monitor.
Kartoo has yet to send me visitor #1, same with OpenFind.
Breaking it down, then, the 'top of the rest of the engines' is as follows for my sites:
(Google related 2nd teir traffic)
(Non Google related 2nd teir seach engine traffic by volume in descending order)
The rest are not on the map, how does it stand for you?
Teoma - is 'mainstream' and part of Ask Jeeves [webmasterworld.com]. My question was essentially, intended to get a feel for what, if any, of the 'lessor known engines' actually get real people using them.
And which are simply web properties that collect dust.
The Alternative Search engine that brings me most traffic is FAST/All the Web (ranging from 7.2% - enormus 38.8%). I also get significant some traffic AltaVista (It used to be a top search engine a long time ago), and from Inktomi partners. There is also some traffic now and then from the smaller players.
For most of my pages the traffic comes from Google and partners, and link partners (I trade/buy links for traffic not PR).
Of just over 63,000 unique visits, #50 of the referrers in volume terms showed 87 referrals in the time period, and still none of the above featured. Therefore you are talking about very small numbers
I should add that serps are good against the keywords that bring the traffic from "mainstream"
Yes, we *all* get referrals from Google & Inktomi ( I hope ). If we weren't, then we wouldn't be very good at what we do, right? :)
Even if it's a click or two today, what about tomorrow? Next year?
The right distribution for say, searchhippo or gigablast through the Infospace network, for example, would have me scrambling to make sure I had good placement. Their sites, in aggregate, drive a lot of traffic through the Google syndication for me (and NOT adwords related - the free stuff).
Point being, it's far better, imho - to stay one step ahead, than to play catch up later.
I get more traffic from other website links than 2nd and 3rd tier SE's.
I do get some traffic from ask.uk but then I have been paying for answer links, now they have just upped the minimum spend, and do not deliver the traffic - BYE BYE. I am doing just fine on Teoma and looking at G addwords so that sorts that.
As for the others you mention never seen em!
I agree entirely, and I am happy that I have good placement on these "other search engines", but I am still getting virually nothing from them as of now.
By the same token, I get a placement from the various "other directories" ...don't see a lot a traffic there either, but it is a link in each case, and you never know...
hate to be pedantic, but last time I looked, Vivisimo, IxQuick, DogPile, SearchHippo and Mamma, were meta search engines, which means they pull their results from real search engines.
And to answer the question, miniscule compared to G, Yahoo and suprise suprise, AV waking up again, but even a couple of referrals each per week adds up.
A very rough breakdown so far for June shows:
InfoSpace .6% (with MetaCrawler 1%)
GigaBlast, Vivisimo, Wisenut, etc., about .1% each
And then there's also a considerable amount of stuff coming from all those sites that appear to use the same "partner" engine. Haven't dug down to see how legitimate this is but adds up to more than 3%. Referring urls in awstats are all like this:
So it looks like a good number of folks do use these guys. I'll take 'em anywhere I find 'em.
I also get traffic from ixquick: this is primarily through Teoma and Gigablast. I get very little directly from Gigablast.com but I get a nice bit from ixquick.
Some hits from Mamma again attributable to Teoma.
I get more hits directly from Searchhippo than I do directly from Gigablast.
W/ Organic Database -
Just for perspective: I probably get almost as much traffic from a clutch of specialized directories as I do many of these Alt. SE's put together. However, those top 3 metasearch engines do generate traffic.
As they represent the 'best of the rest' in many ways, it is a pretty interesting question: Would joe user actually touch something other than Google, Yahoo, or MSN?
The answer seems to be yes but the next question (which I'll leave for another thread) is: what's the future of these 'other engines'. :)
>The answer seems to be yes but the next question (which I'll leave for another thread) is: what's the future of these 'other engines'. :)
I'd say OK, if they're sending traffic they must be getting used (and submitted to by webmasters! <grin>).
Guess it all depends on what their business model is, and how badly they need $ to keep their VCs (assuming they have them), off their backs. 'Cause we all know what happens when a good idea gets into bed with the filthy luche!
BTW, thanks to Fischerlaender for pointing out my mistake in an earlier post.
>SearchHippo isn't a meta engine, it's a real spidering search engine.
Must've been asleep!
Cheers and Hooroo
Alltheweb, is mainstream, as is Ask Jeeves. ;) If there is a forum with the engine's name on it here @ WebmasterWorld, that engine is much more 'mainstream' than the rest.
Try poking around at the start of the thread to check which engines we're discussing then perhaps you can fill us in on if you are actually getting traffic from any of those engines?.
Guess I should answer the question this time eh?
Stats so far for June:
Gigablast - 0, even though I've submitted a couple of times
WiseNut - 2 refs
Yuntis - who?
Vivisimo - 6 refs (meta search engine)
OpenFind - 0 so far, although occassionally pops up
IxQuick - 30 (meta search engine)
DogPile - 59 (meta search engine)
Excite - .uk - 3, .fr - 1.
SearchHippo - 0
Kartoo - 0 but have seen it
Mamma - 23 (another meta se)
MyWay - 7
Other Alternative SEs including locals:
AV - 324, back with a vengence!
search.com - 114
webwombat.com.au - 80
netscape.com - 43
metacrawler.com - 27
info-world.com - 26
sympatico.ca - 26
xtramsn.co.nz - 23
teradex.com - 20 (based ODP as far as I can tell)
naver.com - 14 (.kr I think)
searchalot.com - 10
virgilio.it - 3
Other assortments pulling their results from meta/ODP/RSS feeds etc. single figures each month, too many to keep track of unless something suddenly happens to draw my attention to them.
Hope this is useful.
Cheers and Hooroo