There were/are too many requests for help, and no offers of help. I feel both are commercial quality, yet I don't feel at this point that either are commercially viable in todays market given the enourmous amount of time involved in program and user support. That said, there may be a second life for them in the future. The problem is 1 years worth of work on the table with other projects and 2.5 months to complete it.
Brett let us know if you go commercial, if price is right 'll buy a copy.
In the main time, why not still have a collective/traxis board but you let us figure it out for a while??
Cees