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Building Links to a New Website

How to get the first few thousand free UK and US links

         

Event_King

2:04 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)



This is a much needed thread, as some are very stuck and really don't have a clue how to do this properly.

We know that links build up over time, but I think others may want to know and myself included, how to really speed this process up. Apart from flukey one-way exchanges, articles and directories - are there any suggestions or techniques that can gain a lot of links fast!

buksida

6:34 am on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not sure you'll really want to do this if its a new site. I have managed to get link popularity up to about 4,000 on my 6 month old PR5 site.

Now I'm buried so deep in the Google sandbox that I wish I'd have never bothered.

MarkWolk

11:12 am on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Building links fast is a recipe for disaster. Build them slowly, at a natural pace.

Precious pearls

11:32 am on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)



Hello friend,

I want to tell you something that is related to your link building campaign. It is necessary that your links must be directly based on the theme of your site. If you want 1000 links for your site, just keep in mind that they must be matching with the theme of your site.
Link building should be done with the natural pace. All links should be build manually so that those links will be perfect and help you gaining popularity and good PR.

Cheers
P_P

sugarrae

2:31 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>flukey one-way

If a link is not recipricol - it is one way by default. What you call fluke may work well for thousands of other sites out there.

If you want a crapload of links fast (which likely will trip filters somewhere, somehow) think of something unique and viral (sort of like the things that you get forwarded from your friends in email to sites with parody videos, etc) and put some effort into creating it.

No one here with a "special" way to get a lot of links fast is going to give you that information. As I've stated again and again - link dev is a lot of hard work.

You want a lot of links, overnight and fast containing whatever anchors you want to whatever pages you want with little effort? Go build a blog spammer.

mandyjb

10:27 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0)



I think the best way to get links is to mutually exchange links with other genuine site builders that want the same. I looked into a place called <snip> and they claim to find you links of the same genre of your site, but they come up with all ridiculous matches. Only a few are suitable for exchange.

My site <snip> is a kids site and I prefer kid stuff sites to exchange with - I have been offered link exchanges with dating agencies and insurance and all other stuff kids would just not be interested in viewing.

It is best to look at other sites in your site genre and get in touch personally to suggest a link exchange - everyone benefits then.

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Justilien

10:36 pm on Oct 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Create some truly "useful" content that will be helpful to the visitors of another person's site. Personally I like short list. I often list websites that provide information. Make sure your content is short, scannable and most of all to the point.

rakesh mosaic

2:02 pm on Oct 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Keep adding contents which adds value to your visitors and webmasters will exhange links wth you.

Participates in various forums and always have signature in your post. But remember not to registre with forums just for Signature benefit.

Crush

8:09 pm on Oct 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Go build a blog spammer. "

Does not work anymore either

Justilien

11:29 pm on Oct 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why not go buy Ads/Links that will deliver traffic to your site. Yes it does require a lot of research. Then ask your visitors to link to you.

Event_King

12:44 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



Thanks for the advice people. I have 579 links so far and have a viral process set-up, but it's not that great and only 2 sites signed up for it. Anything viral is very pricey to build and set up so that's out for now.

I get requests using a link exchange service, but that's pretty useless for targeting and at this rate I'll be doing this until I'm grey haired, which doesn't appeal. Buying links is out, as it's too expensive as is advertising - even PPC.

Is simply building content enough, so why will this entice people to link to me - I mean what's my content going to do for them?

inbound

12:52 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why will content make people link to you?

Not everyone creates websites for profit, if they think your stuff is good then they will link. It saves them covering the same stuff.

If you write stuff that visitors will find interesting then you will probably have written stuff that other site owners find interesting. Think about your visitors first and you can almost forget about how you will appear to potential link providers. They just need to know that if they link to you, their visitors will find good stuff, it's like a recommendation so they don't want to send people to a rubbish (or overly commercial) site.

Event_King

1:38 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



Thanks Inbound. I thought others only linked because of the benefit of high PageRank, these days it seems to be less about content and more to do with links for traffic - yet no gain for those visitors.

I have 2 sections of content, one of which is very original and not copied. I added it a couple of weeks ago, but haven't noticed it being indexed in MSN or Google yet. Am I being a bit impatient?

graywolf

2:39 am on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Even if you build something that is linkworthy if it's on a super-long-and-hyphenated-spammy-looking-domain-name.com people will think twice about linking to you. So consider linkability when you choose your domains.

Event_King

12:55 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)



No, me domain name is short.

Jane_Doe

4:07 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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so it's obvious it's better to find 300 link partners with PR 5 then 3000 with PR 0

I'm not so sure that is a correct assumption these days.

Event_King

12:44 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'm not really concerned with Google foolbar - more interested in links for traffic development. Sites that have 10, 20 or even 30'000 links got them when the web was young, so I kind of resigned to the fact that it can't be done - yet some sites that are just 2 yrs old, have thousands and without viral systems in place. It must be possible somehow, although I can't see anyone giving up their link generating methods.

All I know is that there is a way, and it's probably viral. Secrets, effortless link generation hmmmmm, well then consider this: "There seem to be those that have fallen upon the secret to effortless free income generation, and they are so generous that are willing to share this with you - for a fee ofcourse! hehe.

But free linking is probably the best way of getting a new site out there - I certainly would not pay for links if I can possibly help it. It's just I want results faster boo hoo sob.

sugarrae

6:08 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>Does not work anymore either

Not for algos, but it will get thousands of links with no work - was meant to be tounge in cheek. ;)

bts111

11:06 am on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just build sites that are link worthy :)

Event_King

4:20 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)



Can you explain what YOU mean by 'Link Worthy' as that could mean anything.

If I said 'Excommunication in Absentia' would you know what that meant. Let's not be vauge now - if newbies are to learn and understand what points are being made.

JerryOdom

7:59 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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well designed content and putting it in front of people who'd be interested in linking to that sort of content. Time and hard work. Thats how.

Event_King

1:08 am on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



Thanks Jerry.

Event_King

5:53 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



What I find frustrating about the link developing process is:

You have a site which is good, and noone want's to link to it. Then there's the other side of the coin, where loads of link requests, but they are of such low rank, or untargeted to the needs, it's hard to imagine any sort of automatic momentum by eager webmasters.

Call me cynical if you like, but it's a lot tougher to achieve this effortless momentum others claim is so, well, effortless. I haven't yet experienced this wonder - getting a few links will not suddenly create a downfall, that much I know. But I welcome such a landslide and will let you know if it happens.

Back to my emails he.

buckworks

6:06 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You have a site which is good, and noone want's to link to it.

If no one wants to link to it, either the site is being promoted to the wrong people, or it isn't as good as its owner thinks.

Event_King

11:31 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)



I was talking generally buckworks. I'm not dumb enough to sell tennis raquets to chess grandmasters.

MrFishGuy

12:10 am on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I will link to, and request links from sites that are on topic for my sites regardless of their page rank. Today's PR1 is perhaps tommorrow's PR8. I've had no downside to my PR leaking to lower PR sites.

Event_King

12:49 am on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



Probably a wise move - a link is a link Mr Fish.

alyseo

6:41 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Event King

I can sympathise with your problem (although I'm not sure I can spell). It's been a while since I went through this on a new site and I'm about to start again. I have a couple of pieces of advice that might help.

It's not all about numbers. Try to think about links as connecting yourself to your market. Find where the visitors you want spend their time online and get links from there. Participate in forums (on your site theme) or write a blog if you can fill it with something interesting, usefull or amusing.

Also, make sure you have your bases covered in terms of the major and second tier directories. Keep in mind that some links are more equal than others.

If you want to get links from the web community in your particular niche then you are going to have to build something that is genuinely usefull and unique to visitors. That's where content comes in and it will help you with conversion or building membership or repeat visits or whatever you want to use to measure the success of your site.

It might be timely information, or a complete resource or the best in depth coverage of a particular subject. It might be funny or it might be an online tool that's so usefull that everyone wants to provide access to it.

Look at your site honestly and ask whether there is some aspect of it that is better than all the rest of the sites on your topic (or most of them). If it isn't then you need to find a way to change that.

At the end of the day a lesser number of good links from the right places with the right anchor text can see you up the rankings and competing sooner than most people think.

So, keep working at it and don't stress too much about the numbers and it will usually work out over time.

web_sense

6:49 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does link buying helps for a new website.

JamaicanFood

7:37 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Web_sense I really dont know I think there is some confusion here. 1 PR8 link can get you a PR5 in a few days. Thats one plus, there are still some people who do not want to link to you or exchange links if your PR is low.

Buying Links is a trade, lets assume you are being paid a good CPM and the rate, if you are paying for a/the link that will drive traffic to your site, if there is profit in the move take it buy the link.

If you are selling a product you should treat you site as a company, whats the CTR on that link and then how many of these vistors will buy your products. So Event_King assume that links are important but relative to what.

I know the big techies will have some view on this matter..what say you moderators..?

JF

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