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Dealing with good content but PR 0 link partners Guide

Should we go for them or not?

         

silverbytes

8:54 pm on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here's the situation: your website receives 1 or 2 request daily from link partners with page rank 0 on it's pages.

If your site (with PR3,4 or whatever higher) exchange, you will be sistematically loosing your PR. So you don't trade, they take your link away in some days.

If you exchange, your link stays but you loose PR.

When linkpartner has a low PR and bad content you don't feel the loss. But if they are a good content with related theme you are missing something.

Options:

1- Exchange from your higher PR page just for the anchor and loosing PR

2- Deny sistematically all lower PR sites

3- Deny most of them make exceptions when linkpartner seems to have chances of getting some PR and content is good

4- Try to exchange 2 PR0 links for 1 PR2 or 3

5- Tell link partner to hold your link there and advise when they have some PR to reciprocate just then

6- Other options

How to you deal with the situation, and what would be "other options"?

jdubo79

9:04 pm on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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According to people that frequent these forums, public PR means nothing, it is internal PR that is the end all be all which none of us can possibly know.

If a site has good content, and has a PR0 I would link to them if you are pretty sure that their site is new, and is not banned.

rytis

9:20 pm on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Depending on what causes the toolbar PR0.

1. Their links-page is not linked from anywhere on their site, or linked so deep that PR does not even reach 1.0. Definitely no.

2. Site or links-page is very fresh - no PR or no toolbar-PR yet. Wait few weeks and see if the page shows google cache then - I would link back.

3. Site/page is so obscure that googlebot doesn't bother to visit. Probably no.

4. Penalized site/page. Difficult to know, check whether other pages have TBPR and pages from this site rank for obvious keyphrases.

And, don't forget there are other search engines.

Justilien

11:12 pm on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the content is good, relevant and would be of use to your site's users I would consider it. I am mostly concerned with a site's backlinks.

I ask myself:
- Are they quality backlinks and relevant?
- Are they from spammy links pages?

Although I would not spend much time or effort in getting links from a brand new site except to maybe help them out. Just my opinion...

JuniorOptimizer

11:19 pm on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am ranking for gazillions of terms and I think I owe it to the fact I uninstalled my Toolbar one year ago. I have no idea what the PR is on the linking pages, but I do know my income is way up.

PR is like electricity. You can't see it, but it certainly is there. The pages that show 0 are almost higher internally. Just make sure the page is indexed in Google and you'll get the benefit of the anchor text on their next crawl.

neuron

12:35 am on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If your site (with PR3,4 or whatever higher) exchange, you will be sistematically loosing your PR.
link exchange does not cause you to lose PR if the site is properly structured. This is like saying if I start my car I will drain the battery. The reality is that my car creates a lot more energy than that used by its electrical system, just as link exchange can dramatically increase a site's PR.

My own estimate is that the internet is expanding by doubling every year and a half or so, and probably the estimate of many other pundits as well, I do not mean to imply that claim is original. That means that the content that is LINKED TO on the internet today only represents 1/4 of the content that will LINKED TO three years from now. Because Toolbar PR is only being updated once every three months (with a two-week lag), that means that every new site, on average, is going to spend about 8 weeks with a White Google Toolbar PR0 (after having been indexed). While only about 1/20 of all sites at any given time are new sites (2 months or less...or, White PR0) [**yes, I know PR is a page function not a site function, spare me], that 5% is continuously cycling, you get a fresh new 5% every couple of months or so. Like I said, the internet is only about 1/4 the size that it will be 3 years from now.

The sites that need links and actively pursue links are new sites. How do you identify new sites? Look for the WHITE google Toolbar. Duh! (Colloquialism, no disrespect intended.) The best link exchanges you will ever get will be from brand new sites with PR0 showing on their home page.

If all you did was specialize in getting links from brand new sites (assuming you cleaned up your site over time of dead links, because lots of new sites fail), you would probably do very well over the next few years. Those links are the easiest to get, and they are going to grow the most, with time.

[Disclaimer]Discretion should always be exercised when linking. Adult supervision required. Not for the indiscriminate or foolhardy. [End Disclaimer]

sugarrae

2:02 am on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>link exchange does not cause you to lose PR

Agreed.

Link where it makes sense. The toolbar should not be how you measure if a site is link worthy. Ask yourself - if you stumbled upon this site while on the net searching the topic it covers, would you feel that you found a good site with good information? Let your brain guide your answers to link exchange requests, not some useless green bar.