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Forumwatch

1:45 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've send out business requests for many things over the years and very often it takes ages for
a reply or i get none at all.
eg. send emails to 4 hosting companies about
pricing info and only 2 bothered to reply.
i wonder how they stay in business.
(i'm not going to mention names)

crashomon

2:47 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Its called 'thinning the herd' and those companies that pay attention to their customer service will win out every time. So, take it as a nice 'heads up' that when a company doesn't respond in a timely manner, that you're better off going somewhere else.

Cheers,
Patrick

<picked up two customers with quick and timely responses to their initial emails>

txbakers

3:27 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You can't hear this enough - especially in web based businesses. Just because you build it doesn't mean they'll come. Just because they come, doesn't mean they'll stay.

Operating a web business is in some respects more difficult, because you never see a customer face to face and get to shake his/her hand.

Your customer service has to be BETTER than every one else's - period. The web means instant communication. You can't sit on emails. Your customer wants an answer NOW. If you don't give it to them, your competitor will.

The rules of success in business haven't changed just because you put a .com after your name.

Customer satisfaction is JOB ONE!

Krapulator

4:26 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is something the tech industry in general could really lift its game on.

Essex_boy

6:15 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The rules of success in business haven't changed just because you put a .com after your name.

- Pity many high profile Dot coms never learnt that before they went bust

txbakers

12:16 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Pity many high profile Dot coms never learnt that before they went bust

I don't remember which still-in-business .com did this, but once they got going put a big sign on the wall in the office:

Revenue - Expenses = Profit!

Just to remind everyone of the basic principal.

oneguy

12:31 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hate to have to disagree with everyone here, but sometimes customers will suck time and money out of you.

Customer service *is* an expense.

I might host you and hold your hand for $5,000.00 per month, but I'm sure not doing it for $5.00 per month.

In some businesses, there are customers or clients that you probably don't want. Sometimes, those customers are ones that require excessive service. Increased customer count does not always equal increased profit.

txbakers

1:08 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Customer service *is* an expense.

Yes, and there will be customers who really make you earn their payment.

But if you don't know how to handle that kind of customer, you open yourself up for all kinds of problems. Someone like that is probably vocal and will tell lots of people how bad your company is, even though we both know he was the problem.

Bottom line - you need customers or you are not in business. And you had better treat them right.

I used to own a small factory making duffle bags. I advertised a five-year unconditional guarantee. Sure, there were some who would bring in a tattered bag just before the 5 years and expect a new one. I would gladly give one - I'd rather have that person tell 20 people how he scammed me than have him tell 40 people what a jerk I was.

too much information

1:08 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm not defending them for not responding to you, but I get around 300 junk e-mails per day, and I am having problems sending email from one of my domains to another of my domains (no failure response, and no mail ever arrives) so it is possible that they just didn't see your message.

We also work hard on our customer service, and our experience is that many spam filters dump our e-mail replies before the person ever sees it and as far as they are concerned "you didn't send it".

rocknbil

3:26 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's a thin line to walk, but in a lot of cases, I agree with oneguy.

Primarily because in most situations, especially for a hosting company, all of the relevant info for their services are already publicly posted. If the customer doesn't bother to review the info we've already made easily accessible, it's a pretty good sign that this is likely to be one of those projects that we'll never turn a profit on.

I have an estimate form on our site in which someone looking for site development can fill out and submit. I used to pore over these emails, detailing all the wonderful things we could do for these prospective customers, and they seldom replied. Which means either my response was awful, or they're just fishing.

Like I said, it's a thin line to walk, sorting out the lookie-loo's and those who would take up untold hours of your time just to go somewhere else to save a dollar.

txbakers

4:46 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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people will fish all day long.

That's the difference between success and failure.

Successful companies realize that to fish you need drop lines in the water all day long, and not every line will snag a fish. Successful companies know how to convert fishers to customers.

I get dozens of fishers as well, and always respond promptly and politely. I'll even put a token in the mail. Sometimes they respond, sometimes they don't. Enough do.

monkeythumpa

4:48 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BusinessWeek had an article over the holidays about customer service that stated that the costs involved in aquiring a customer average 37 times the amount to keep a customer happy. So for those who don't want to spend the buck to keep a customer happy, it will cost you 37 bones to get a new one.

And for those who complain about users who can't find the information on your site, you probably have something wrong with your site. For every person who takes the time to email or call you up with a problem, there are hundreds that just go to your compeditor.

Just to recap the math . . .
If you ignore one person who emails or calls (which will cost you, lets say $5 to help them and fix your page) it will cost you on average $185 to get a new customer. Now multiply that by the other 99 people who are just a click away from your compeditor and you have to spend $18,500 to replace them.

Maybe you just know who to ignore, maybe you have a undersaturated industry. Whatever the case tell me what you do and let me set up shop. There is money to be made!