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Would you reveal your traffic?

If it would help you market your site...

         

opulyst

11:01 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have an idea on listing websites in a directory based on their traffic. It would require webmasters using a script which would analyze their log files and report to my directory unique visitors and their page views only.

Then the directory would list the sites based on traffic. All sites would be public in the directory, but if you want to know exact traffic stats, then you would need to pay a fee to get that info.

As a webmaster, I would participate and do it, even though my sites do not get mountains of visitors, I think it would be a valuable tool to show advertisers where I rank among sites in my category.

More importantly, I want to know if you would do it?

Rosalind

1:06 am on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have an idea on listing websites in a directory based on their traffic. It would require webmasters using a script which would analyze their log files and report to my directory unique visitors and their page views only.

That would require a lot of trust. I'd feel uneasy about letting a script loose on my log files. They can be full of sensitive information that I wouldn't be keen to share with competitors. Stats can be a gold mine.

It also excludes all those sites which don't have access to raw logs, but instead have them processed and presented in a graphical and easy to interpret format. How many different formats of stats reporting are you prepared to support?

It also looks inherently open to abuse. Anyone with a reasonable amount of skill could fabricate higher traffic levels. So in all it sounds like a lot of work for you, in return for figures which will not necessarily be accurate.


More importantly, I want to know if you would do it?

Personally, no.

opulyst

4:30 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the response.

I know you are not the only person who looked at this thread, but I really appreciate you posting your thoughts. I can only assume by the silence from anybody who looked this that they agree with your assessment.

One more question for you Rosalind, would your mind be changed if Google offered something like this?

Thanks.

karmov

4:38 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't participate in this type of thing personally. It goes back to the idea that Rosalind mentioned about stats being a gold mine. Raw logs contain detailed information about how and why a site is successful or not. There's just too much valuable data in raw logs to allow a 3rd party full access to them.

Essex_boy

4:40 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No way would I get in involved here. My logs are pure gold if interperated correctly.

web_india

8:01 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> I want to know if you would do it
No. Revealing your stats to your advertisers is one thing but for a script to analyze your stats.
I would not do it.

justgowithit

8:09 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nope. Too much risk.

Rosalind

8:27 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One more question for you Rosalind, would your mind be changed if Google offered something like this?

*Shudder*

Still no, in this hypothetical case. Even though Google have the motto "do no evil" and some might consider them less likely to screw people over, and they control an awful lot of traffic, I'd still want my stats to stay confidential. I'd also be trusting in my intuition that any SE that uses this method would become riddled with spam pretty soon, and get dropped like a stone by the general public.

ddent

10:14 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can't see myself handing over my precious logs. What I could see is (if your site got the traffic for it to be worthwhile) *some anonymous person* setting up a throw-away site, and creating fake logs with a lot of traffic, and submitting them...

sem4u

10:31 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, I would not allow it at all.

Macro

10:39 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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opulyst, I'd be happy to give you this info. Please first email me your creditcard numbers, security codes, user names and passwords to all your sites, your DOB, SS number, mother's maiden name, your bank account number, and a clear photocopy of your signature. Thanks very much.

Google already knows lots of things about your site that you don't. Giving them your traffic figures is likely to be a small drop in a very big ocean and of very little extra use to them

bloke in a box

11:43 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I also agree that I wouldn't be happy letting anything else loose on my logs, too much risk.

opulyst

3:55 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all your feedback.

It's good to know I can come here with an idea and get an honest assessment whether it would be successful or not.

Macro, please sticky me your email address to receive that info. :P

Macro

4:24 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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opulyst, sure. But I'll put it in here in case anyone else wants to follow suit. Please use: rip-me-off@do-it-now.com. I will reply with links to all my stats. Thanks once again.