Tableless CSS Design Woes

Why do you hate me so?

[Livenomadic]

Little rant here...

For a redesign of my site I spent 4 hours making the no-table template work in box IE and Firefox...

Then I tried in Opera only to have it EXPLODE all over the screen.

I am seriously considering going back to using tables, because it is virtually impossible for someone who isnt a CSS master to create a good tableless design that actually works...

ARRRGGG

[vkaryl]

I've had the same problem in Opera over and over. I actually have a problem with one TABLED site and Opera (lessee, it's Opera 7.0.3227 freebie, which might make some difference, don't know....)

While I still use it to view sites before going live with them (so as to KNOW how bad it's going to look), I won't spend hours and hours of tweaking any more - if it's easy to fix, fine, otherwise screw it. Last six months, my Opera percentage averaged over all sites is less than my Netscape 4 percentage, which approximates infinitesimal. I have better things to do with my time....

[grandpa]

I gave up on a pure CSS layout. OK, so I'm a wimp :) Tables work just fine, and CSS can give them most any look I desire.

It was for the same reason... code all day so it looks good in one browser, only to have make changes for the next browser, resulting in more changes for the first browser. Who needs it?!?

[vkaryl]

Oh yah, grandpa.... but there's NO REASON for Opera to screw a tabled site so completely. And this is a "plain jane" site: no js, no css (haven't reworked this one yet, it's just one of my own "playtoys"), no php. Nothing....

Stupid.