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Will Internet Explorer 7 suck?

Just speculation if Microsoft engineers are aware that the w3 exists...

         

JAB Creations

9:43 am on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It used to be Netscape 4... for those with experience no explenation neccesary.

But for those dedicated to perfection and who like creative freedom and cross browser compatiblity it's hard to swallow that simple bugs still exist that give us reason to groan.

Although it's taking an eternity for the Mozilla team to fix a simple scrolling issue for DIVs (now finally fixed at LEAST in their 1.8 Alpha) one of the things thats really bugging me of late has been in regards to my revising my CSS.

DIVs if my perception is correct are supposed to be the replacement for tables. However after a bit of frustration in pixel by pixel placement with borders included I found that not only IE but also Opera fail to render the border seperate from the width in CSS on DIVs.

I haven't gotten in to the nitty gritty I suppose you could say about IE until of late and IE 6 has been out much longer then of late. It's an OS release browser it seems and unlike Opera and Moz little word seems to leak about IE 7. What I am wondering is if IE7 will follow standards this time around? If not I'm sure it will be yet another long wait if MS maintains an IE/OS release only policy. If that happens AND IE fails to meet such simple standards browser compatability will remain a painful issue that we'll have to continue to deal with.

Should IE 7 come out without the simple fixes it needs I'm not prepared for another 4 more years. I'm more interested in learning to enrich my understanding of development then play patty cake all night with CSS in frustration because MS simply can't follow W3s standards.

goodroi

1:55 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Jab Creation,

You will probably get more responses if you post this the Browser forum [webmasterworld.com...]

I doubt Microsoft really cares right now since they control over 76% of the market. What is interetsing is that Mozilla's share has doubled the last 9 months. Mozilla needs to get enough market share to make Microsoft release a better product.

JAB Creations

2:40 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree.

sonjay

2:41 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm anticipating that IE7 will suck. That way, I'll be prepared if it does, and if it doesn't I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Either way, what I hate is that MS has announced they won't be building it as a standalone browser but only as an integrated component of the OS. Which means: All the people who don't rush out and buy the new OS (and they are legion) will still be using IE6 for years to come.

IE6 will be the next NN4. We're going to be stuck dealing with all of its bugginess for a long time, even if IE7 doesn't suck.

Lord Majestic

2:47 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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IE6 vs IE5 is nothing like NN4 vs NN3! IE6 is a fine product but Mozilla now reached same level and user addons are beginning to make the difference (for me at least). I think Microsoft will be forced to release IE7, which might be Longhorn only, which means 2006 release if that, and I don't expect anything fundamental there just like Mozilla is not fundmentally better than Microsoft, at least not yet.

JAB Creations

2:48 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh I know! We'll just all deny IE browsers and have them redirected to the FF download page! :-D

JAB Creations

3:28 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MS is breaking out with multiple desktops...copying Linux so I would *NOT* be surprised is IE7 had tabbed browsing. It's not as big of a feature for me considering I like having eighty browser windows open to ALT TAB through. Maybe I'm a tad old school....hmm, the multiple desktop thing seems like it will fit me more. CTRL+ALT+TAB better be the hot keys for that though else it just wont feel right.

But I just worry that they'll screw everything up really bad. For example, their kind of new keyboards... well ALT+F3 isn't very effective at closing windows. There are just some things you don't mess with. So while they aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing, they're screwing up the few things that they get right. They walk a fine line...

But honestly I wish the Linux community would come together like the Moz community has. Push a single product instead of wasting time trying to down windows. We get it...Windows is a monopoly...but if you're gonna bring it down, give us something better and for goodness sakes keep that console away from us! I understand DOS just fine...but crap like multple partitions...gah...

I'd like to see Longhorn do two things that you can only get if you're using EITHER 98SE or XP... copy all the files via CTRL+C like 98 minus the swap and the better (but not jaw dropping) stability of XP. Yah... good ol 98, but if it weren't for it's termite invested legs.