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Open a New Page or Not?

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webmastertexas

10:31 am on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've read so many opinions on the topic that I'll admit I'm not sure anymore. But I just wanted to get you guys opinion on this topic:

Can you tell me if you set your hyperlinks to OPEN A NEW PAGE or to open it in the same window? And when you answer, can you give me, in one sentence, WHY you choose what you choose?

If there seems to be a large answer in favor of one opinion, and the reasons sound good, I'll go with that one on my own site. Thanks for all your opinions.

encyclo

11:02 am on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Usability is the biggest concern here: the most green of newbies knows just one button, which is the one that gets them out of all sorts of sticky situations: the "Back" button. This is a fundamental part of how the web works - you can navigate backwards and forwards through different pages. Open links in a new window, and you break that very basic way of working. What's more, the often-stated aim of not "losing" visitors when they click an external link is counterbalanced by the confusion caused by a new window replacing the old one (hiding the first - newbies almost invariably run apps full-screen) can actually mean that the person wants to click back to your site, but the "Back" button is greyed out, so they ca't and go elsewhere.

Next up, people with visual impairments using screenreaders - the screenreader usually announces a list of links on the page, and those which open in a new window are announced - but it is easy to miss with the wealth of other information read out, and you break the "Back" function as much as for sighted viewers (the person has to call up a list of open windows, try to identify the original one from it's oftern obtuse title, then navigate to it).

Third reason is that I absolutely hate it when sites do this to me. I never open new windows, because I use a browser with tabs. You break my way of working. Of course, if I (or anyone else) wants to open pages in new tabs or windows, I can choose to do so easily.

Of course, no major site opens links in a new window ever, and if your site does, it is enough reason for me to leave and go somewhere else.

webmastertexas

12:38 pm on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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@encyclo

Wow, those are some excellent points. I can honestly say I NEVER thought of all those things you mentioned. They are serious issues to consider, alright.

Kolb

12:45 pm on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For my sites I only open a new window when it's an external site.

Is this bad or so?

SkyDog

8:49 pm on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For my sites I only open a new window when it's an external site.

That's pretty much standard. The only thing I could imagine that you'd want to open in a new window on your own site is something that's "printable", help page or a terms of condition and such.

mincklerstraat

11:37 pm on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"little extras" can go nicely in pop-up links - like definitions of this, a very short 'more about that' - your users will get the hang of it and know that these little links (especially if you use your markup to distinguish them) won't send them off the page they're reading, just give them that little bit more info.

I gave way too much thought to this issue designing a real estate site since the standard practice was putting up the larger sized pictures in popups. Thing was, customer was real tiny, and at times would have very few properties, and very few pages. So I made 'mini pages' out of these popups (not javascript popups actually, just new pages that get resized to a smaller size) so I could put a couple of links on them w/ the cms if we needed the extra alt tags. Not ideal, really, but works.

skippy

12:29 am on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I like what pop ups and new windows do for some of the reasons stated above but I have been removing them from all of my sites lately because of pop up blockers. There is a thread just started about it here

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karmov

2:15 pm on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For my sites I only open a new window when it's an external site.

That's pretty much standard.

Altough it's standard practice, that doesn't make it right. I completely agree with enclyo on the usabillity issues this presents. A site I inherited did use a new browser window for external links and I've been working to remove these types of links from it.

The back button is the single most useful button on the whole WWW (Yes, even more useful than the "Google Search" button). Links that open up in other browsers break the back button. This is annoying for experienced web users and the equivalent of giving a tourist bad directions for novice web users. They will eventually figure it out, but will most likely have a bad experience along the way.